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    Quote Originally Posted by idzeroone
    Yep,
    My memory was correct.

    "Has anyone ever seen Will Brink? The guy is a chubby little man who doesn't look like he trains or has any clue about nutrition.

    When someone is supposed to be a guru they had better practice what they preach or I have a very hard time buying into their ideas (assuming they are able to practice it---i.e. not physically handicapped etc.). I might otherwise assume the lack of drive which allows themselves to look like a slob (if they are a fitness guy or gal) might just translate into their work and thus their work might be the result of a haphazard work ethic.

    My 2 cents."

    Anyway, the only reason I am posting is I want my post total to go up, LOL.
    Please note my qualifying words "a very hard time" as opposed to I cannot possibly believe their ideas.

    If a squid states something which makes sense to me, backs up my personal experience, or is readily agreed upon in the arena upon which they are commenting then I will probably agree with it and wonder why said squid cannot practice what they preach.

    My specific comment about Brink was really due to a picture I have seen of him with Debbie Kruck (a fitness model) where she dwarfs him in height and his pot-belly is readily evident along with his lack of arm development. This image of him, due to my own issues, makes me truly wonder about the validity of what he says and or why the heck he can't apply it to himself.

    Like I said, it is my opinion on the matter and probably one I should have kept to myself because it serves no real purpose other than negativity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chris mason
    Like I said, it is my opinion on the matter and probably one I should have kept to myself because it serves no real purpose other than negativity.
    Nah, I think everyone feels the same way you do, Chris. It's just important to recognize that you can't necessarily judge a book by its cover so to speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Severed Ties
    I've talked about the importance of macronutrients many times on the forum yet some people can't get past the idea of calories in vs calories out. It's not about one or the other but rather utilizing both if you want to get LEAN not THIN.

    This article ties both idea's together beautifully.
    Glad you enjoyed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencerjrus
    So basically to summarize "Your body can tell the difference between different kinds of foods regardless of identical calorie counts."

    Wow I never would have thought of that on my own. If articles like this are all it takes to be a leading researcher in your field I should go work at NASA. Honestly if I'm missing something here please point it out and I will gladly apologize for my sarcasm but from reading the article I don't see any information you couldnt get from asking a room full of kindergarten students.
    Then go ask a room full of kindergarten kids and see what answers you get. I have had a bunch of PhD level researchers tell me at conferences how much they like that article, but clearly, you are more advanced then any of them or myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink
    Then go ask a room full of kindergarten kids and see what answers you get. I have had a bunch of PhD level researchers tell me at conferences how much they like that article, but clearly, you are more advanced then any of them or myself.
    Wow. How unprofessional of you. If you are who you claim to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris mason
    Has anyone ever seen Will Brink? The guy is a chubby little man who doesn't look like he trains or has any clue about nutrition.
    Is that right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holto
    Wow. How unprofessional of you.
    How so? Can't deal with it when a person defends themselves after some person makes insulitng (and incorrect) comments? Professionalism does not = accepting insults from people. Deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maki Riddington
    Nice arms.

    Thank you Maki. I do the best I can.

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    Interesting discussion.

    Meat animals produce different qualities of meat depending upon their feed. It's not a huge leap to think that humans could be similar in this regard.

    My feeling is that some aspects of diet (calories, sufficient essential macro and micro nutrients) produce gross changes in physique, while others (macronutrient timing, quality and type of essential and non-essential macro and micronutrients) create the fine tuning. This is not based on an article I can point to, but a pattern of observations I haven't quite managed to put togther ... yet.

    I'm all ears though - I'd sure like to know how to get the rest of the fat off my ass.

    Will, drop by my gym log anytime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink
    How so? Can't deal with it when a person defends themselves after some person makes insulitng (and incorrect) comments? Professionalism does not = accepting insults from people. Deal with it.

    Defending yourself is one thing. You kinda sound offended and defensive, which is kinda sad when done on the internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Built

    My feeling is that some aspects of diet (calories, sufficient essential macro and micro nutrients) produce gross changes in physique, while others (macronutrient timing, quality and type of essential and non-essential macro and micronutrients) create the fine tuning. This is not based on an article I can point to, but a pattern of observations I haven't quite managed to put togther ... yet.

    This is pretty much the way I see it and have experienced it as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smalls
    Defending yourself is one thing. You kinda sound offended and defensive, which is kinda sad when done on the internet.
    Just going to chime in and say I gree with this.


    Professionalism is not just doing a job. It is doing a job while potraying a particular image or impression (maturity, good character, etc.). This is my opinion and the techincal definition of "professionalism" closely resembles it.


    But anyway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Built
    Interesting discussion.

    Meat animals produce different qualities of meat depending upon their feed. It's not a huge leap to think that humans could be similar in this regard.

    My feeling is that some aspects of diet (calories, sufficient essential macro and micro nutrients) produce gross changes in physique, while others (macronutrient timing, quality and type of essential and non-essential macro and micronutrients) create the fine tuning. This is not based on an article I can point to, but a pattern of observations I haven't quite managed to put togther ... yet.

    I'm all ears though - I'd sure like to know how to get the rest of the fat off my ass.

    Will, drop by my gym log anytime.

    And I agree with Maki - nice pipes.
    As I made clear in the article, more research is clearly needed in this area, but I felt there was enough info at this point to put forth the theory/concept. People can take away from that what they want. Thanx for the "nice piped" comments. I had posted a URL to an MPEG of my last leg day, but for reasons unclear, the mod removed it claiming there were pics on my photo bucket section not allowed on the forum. There is no porn there or anything like that, so it's a mystery to me, especially considering I have posted that URL to many a forum without issue. Regardless, it's an interesting area of research and researchers in this area are just starting to "get it" when it comes to macro nutrient ratios vs simple calories and their effects on bodycomp (vs weight) and other interesting effects.

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    If you could post a study, wherein anything other than total calories had an impact on body composition, I would be fascinated to read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holto
    If you could post a study, wherein anything other than total calories had an impact on body composition, I would be fascinated to read it.
    We should do our own study. We have a pretty large sample group, after all, filled with newbies like myself. Hardest part would be arranging for accurate composition tests for each subject at various markers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShockBoxer
    We should do our own study.
    To have any credibility for a non live in study, you need a huge group. At least 1000. The only study I can think of like this is the Harvard Nurses study. It gets referenced alot in nutrition science. It had 4000+ participants.

    If we did it though it would be cool if the subjects used At Large products. That kind of hype could create a long term legacy for the brand.

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