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    4 weeks out from elite/6 weeks out from Mt. Rogers

    i'm a rookie here, and figured it's time i dove in and introduced myself. why not start by posting a few pictures. i've been on www.beyondmass.com messing around, but this is such a bigger forum with more people...why not get some more experienced advice. i just did a show 2 weeks ago (mountaineer)...my first one...and i have one in 4 weeks (elite muscle classic) and one in 6 weeks (mt rogers--NGA show). instead of posting contest pics, i wanted to post my weekly pics from yesterday and see what you guys think i should do about diet and cardio.

    now...let me figure out how to put a picture in here.
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    You look good! Good overall shape and thickness.

    If you want any constructive criticism I would be happy to provide it.


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    any constructive criticsm is welcome. sometimes hurt feelings lead to show victories. tell me what you think.
    bodybuilding is not a hobby for me. it's about a doctor saying i'll never walk again, and proving him wrong by conquering the physical world. it's more than a stress reliever; it is an answer to my critics who say i can't do it. it's more than a tool of physique; it's a tool of worship. it's more than a sport; it is who i am.

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    Doing great there, I leave the small amount of critic to Chris.

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    Chris wants a better front double bi picture. so i'm posting it here. i only have two from that day. oh, and Chris...i was talking about something else in the PM. for some reason i thought i posted contest photos and not photos from yesterday. so in that regard, any diet, posing, or flaw-related advice would be great from anyone. (i'm still a rookie)

    PS...you think i can get the belly in shape in the 25 days remaining?
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    You definitly need to lean up before your next comp. I would suggest doing some sort of a pre-contest depletion to really get you leaned out but I am not the best person to provide you with info on that. I bet ST would have some good advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crussow
    You definitly need to lean up before your next comp. I would suggest doing some sort of a pre-contest depletion to really get you leaned out but I am not the best person to provide you with info on that. I bet ST would have some good advice.

    i can only guess you're referring to carb depletion? or water? i'm on a carb cycle right now...roughly 75/day on Mon-Thurs and about 200-250/day on Fri-Sun.
    bodybuilding is not a hobby for me. it's about a doctor saying i'll never walk again, and proving him wrong by conquering the physical world. it's more than a stress reliever; it is an answer to my critics who say i can't do it. it's more than a tool of physique; it's a tool of worship. it's more than a sport; it is who i am.

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    Do you work your lower back?
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    lower back is definately holding water and skin is loose. i work it doing hyperextensions and whatnot. but i think that once i flush out the water for my show that will come in well. i think my back is my best feature.
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    I think you weakest point is your chest. Looks kinda small compared to most other major muscle groups...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMCtrk
    I think you weakest point is your chest. Looks kinda small compared to most other major muscle groups...
    you mean in terms of mass or cuts?

    it's funny b/c i agree it's a weakpoint...but the funny part is maybe 2 years ago i would have said it was my strongest point. wonder what happened there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pentacent500
    you mean in terms of mass or cuts?

    it's funny b/c i agree it's a weakpoint...but the funny part is maybe 2 years ago i would have said it was my strongest point. wonder what happened there.
    In terms of mass, not sure if that's genetics or just a lack of chest exercise, but the size is definitely lagging behind. Everything else looks good.

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    definately not lack of exercise. possibly overtraining. maybe this offseason i'll go easier on chest but do it twice a week instead of every 5 or 6 days.
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    as of this morning...first thing in the AM, non/swoll...

    5'10" 201
    waist: 31 1/2 "
    chest: 48 1/2 "
    biceps: 19 3/4"
    quads: 28 "
    forearms: 16 "

    i want to come into the last show of the season at 189 so i can make light-heavy. i don't care much about my weight for the first show.probably drop waist to about 30-30 1/2. hopefully the rest won't drop more than 1/4" in the next 5 1/2 weeks before the end of my contest season.
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    Overall you look pretty decent, I think.. great basic shape and decent symmetry

    a bit hard to see in some of those pics but your legs look a little overshadowed by upper body.. actually you seem to have a larger man's arms which may account for the comments about the chest looking weak.

    hams & glutes look kinda soft as well as the low back and I can't really see the calves clearly but are they lagging?

    Overall it seems like dialing in the diet and coming in nice and dry for the show will sort out most of what I mention here.

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    callahan: interesting. i've always thought i've had big legs. some have said that they overshadow my upper body. and there is definately some softness in those areas. a lot of that is water that i'm holding...in the process of flushing it out. the rest should come by showtime, i hope. keep in mind that this is done with the worst possible lighting to show muscularity, and i'm about as white as i can get (even though i tan a lot--go figure).

    anybody have any ideas on dropping the water? i'm getting 2 gallons/day now. gonna go to 3 gallons/day for the wed/thurs/fri before the show, but cut water at, say, noon (so it's ok not to get 3 gallons that day). diuretics = taraxatone, dandelion root, and uva ursi. i'll get probably 20 oz of water around 6 friday night so that the carbs get saturated and allow me to bulk more. also intend to use some wheat thins to suck some of the water out. cutting sodium on wed, and am toying with the idea of sitting in a sauna for 20 min on mon/tues/wed.

    any other ideas?
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    could just be the angle of the photographs making the legs look smaller... those are definitely not flattering pix

    I don't know that I'd bother with saunas

    controlling your carbs and sodium are usually the way to go to dry up, no?

    as far as diuretics, why no EC stack action? or did you not stockpile some ephedrine before all that stupid FDA nonsense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pentacent500
    as of this morning...first thing in the AM, non/swoll...

    5'10" 201
    waist: 31 1/2 "
    chest: 48 1/2 "
    biceps: 19 3/4"
    quads: 28 "
    forearms: 16 "

    i want to come into the last show of the season at 189 so i can make light-heavy. i don't care much about my weight for the first show.probably drop waist to about 30-30 1/2. hopefully the rest won't drop more than 1/4" in the next 5 1/2 weeks before the end of my contest season.

    I'm not trying to be an ass or anything, but judging from the pictures, and your weight, I'm having a hard time believing those stats. I dunno, I could be completely wrong though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callahan

    as far as diuretics, why no EC stack action? or did you not stockpile some ephedrine before all that stupid FDA nonsense?
    no ephedrine for me. i use hot rox for a thermogenic...works much better than any ephedrine product ever did.
    bodybuilding is not a hobby for me. it's about a doctor saying i'll never walk again, and proving him wrong by conquering the physical world. it's more than a stress reliever; it is an answer to my critics who say i can't do it. it's more than a tool of physique; it's a tool of worship. it's more than a sport; it is who i am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manveet
    I'm not trying to be an ass or anything, but judging from the pictures, and your weight, I'm having a hard time believing those stats. I dunno, I could be completely wrong though.
    lol. which stats in particular don't you believe? sorry if your insecurity made you feel small. was only answering the dude's question. i have nothing to gain from posting false stats. especially precontest right now where i feel smaller than ever.
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    your arms are definetly your strongest point. 19 3/4, that is VERY big. Id say you look pretty great. Maybe bring up your lagging chest and legs and youll be extremely impressive.
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    wow. if everyone thinks the chest is lagging it must be lagging more than i thought. glad i posted here. once offseason hits i'll have a strategy in place to bring that back up. i thought about it...and my strength used to be my chest (back when i did everything once a week). i switched to doing everything BUT chest and legs twice/week and suddenly what was my strength is now my weakness. it could either be that, or the fact that my chest was my strength BEFORE i had open heart surgery. makes me wonder if the that had anything to do with it.
    bodybuilding is not a hobby for me. it's about a doctor saying i'll never walk again, and proving him wrong by conquering the physical world. it's more than a stress reliever; it is an answer to my critics who say i can't do it. it's more than a tool of physique; it's a tool of worship. it's more than a sport; it is who i am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pentacent500
    lol. which stats in particular don't you believe? sorry if your insecurity made you feel small. was only answering the dude's question. i have nothing to gain from posting false stats. especially precontest right now where i feel smaller than ever.
    You look great in the pics, don't get me wrong. But it just doesn't look like you have damn near 20" arms. I don't think he was being insecure, it's just the way some of the pictures came out. To me you look about 15lbs heavier in some than others-the camera can do that. For instance, in picture 025, you look much smaller due to lighting and the pic being taken further away.
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    arms were over 21 in the offseason. i was mad i dropped an inch and a half in precontest. i was thinking 19 3/4 was small. and pic 025 is bad. wonder if i can take that off, b/c i posted one with better lighting a few posts higher.

    oh yeah...hahn...go buckeyes.
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