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Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    The Road to 245

    Background info:
    I play football and I'm a junior in HS. I'm 16 years old am 6'2 and weigh 220. For next season, I'm trying to get up to 245. I'm mostly focusing on my diet and lifting. I am tracking my diet on www.fitday.com. Here's my stats:
    Bench Max:260
    Squat Max:365
    Clean:215

    Here's my main diet stats from today:
    Calories: 5320
    Fat: 115g
    Carbs: 866g
    Protein: 184g

    Today was legs, back, biceps

    Squats
    135x10 warmup
    225x8 2nd warmup
    245x5
    270x5
    280x5
    300x5
    315x3

    Power Clean:
    135x5 warm up
    155x5
    165x5
    175x5
    195x3

    DB Curls:
    35x10 each arm
    45x10 each arm
    45x10 each arm
    45x10 each arm

    Rev. Grip bar Curls
    85x10
    85x10
    85x10

    Hanging Leg lifts
    4x10

    Lat Pulls
    155x8
    155x8
    165x8
    165x8

    That's all I had time for today. I'm glad I started this to keep track of my progression

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    You sir, are big. Welcome to journal land. BTW i'm a junior too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffWillConquer
    You sir, are big. Welcome to journal land. BTW i'm a junior too.
    Thanks, but I still need to get bigger. Chest, tris, shoulders tomorrow...Wooo

    John

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    This eating like crazy diet is working! I'm up to 223 already!

    So today was bench, tri's, and shoulders...I wasn't feeling bench at all

    Bench:
    135x10 warm up
    195x6
    210x4
    235x2 (needed a little help on second rep)
    185x10 (I was really surprised I did this many)

    DB flat bench
    65x10
    65x10
    65x10
    55x10 (arms were too dead to do 65)

    Skull Crusher
    75x10
    75x10
    85x10
    85x10

    super setted with...

    Close Grip Bench
    135x10
    135x10
    135x10
    145x10 (killer)

    Front Raises with DB
    20x10
    20x10
    20x10
    20x10

    supersetted with...

    lateral raises
    15x10
    15x10
    15x10
    15x10

    supersetted with

    Arnold Presses
    40x10
    40x10
    40x10
    35x10 (didn't want to drop DB on my head)

    Supersetted with

    Upright Rows
    95x10
    95x10
    95x10
    95x10

    So my workout was full of fun and pain. The guy a work out with popped a blood vessel in his head while benching so he didn't work out with me, but I got an official spotter! This gave me a lot more time to do things that I usually can't fit in.

    Food stats for today:
    Calories: 5867
    Fat: 187g
    Carbs: 832g
    Protein:199g

    Today's diet, I think, has been the best day thus far.

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    Last edited by Johnm187; 11-09-2004 at 06:47 PM.
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    Bench- 260
    Squat- 365
    Clean- 215

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    Looks like a good day, good luck on your goals!
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    Today was my off day. I played some speedball, which is a combination of soccer, basketball, hockey, and handball, today. I still weigh the same 223 from yesterday. I didn't eat breakfast this morning because I was full from eating so much last night.
    Dietary stats:
    Calories: 5469
    Fat:158
    Carbs:766
    Protein:242
    6'1 220
    BF~15%-20%?
    Bench- 260
    Squat- 365
    Clean- 215

    Beastasaurus Rex

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    good luck with your goals... you're a big guy for your age

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    Your a big kid for your age...got Mauri or Samoan in you? heh.

    I notice you do alot in one day, e.g Legs, back Biceps...careful not to drain all your energy out, i suppose if you can manage it and still get the results you want then its ok (every body's phsyical structure is different) but you dont want to exaust your muscles and end in an injury...Either way, your making some strong moves man, keep at it and good luck!
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    I'm already up to weighing 224. Today was legs, back and bi's. Sicilian- I do think I do too much, but I have to or else I'll fail my weightlifting class.

    Low Box Squats (past parallel---ouch)
    135x10
    225x8
    275x6
    295x6
    295x6

    Hang Cleans
    135x6
    155x5
    165x5
    185x3

    Lat Pulls
    115x8
    125x8
    135x8
    135x8

    supersetted with

    DB Curls
    35x10 each arm
    40x10
    45x8
    50x6

    Preacher Curls
    65x10
    65x10
    75x10

    Rev Grip Pull Down
    140x8
    150x8
    165x8

    This is all I got done today. Everything felt ok. Here's my diet stats for today:
    Calories: 5068
    Fat: 147
    Carbs: 750
    Protein: 184

    Wasn't really a great eating day either.
    6'1 220
    BF~15%-20%?
    Bench- 260
    Squat- 365
    Clean- 215

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    dam nice work bro...I am on the rode to 245 myself, actually about to pass that and now setting my heights for 300lbs

    were the same height too, but dam you got awesome numbers for the legs bro'. we got a lot of same strength......

    only sucky part if your half my age heh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alke
    dam nice work bro...I am on the rode to 245 myself, actually about to pass that and now setting my heights for 300lbs

    were the same height too, but dam you got awesome numbers for the legs bro'. we got a lot of same strength......

    only sucky part if your half my age heh
    Yea...I started working out about 3 years ago too. Coaches want you to be the biggest you can possibly be by the time you are starting.
    6'1 220
    BF~15%-20%?
    Bench- 260
    Squat- 365
    Clean- 215

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    wooahh..you have a weightlifting class?...There are such things as those at school? Geez, talk about schools taking competition serious lol!
    Dont worry about failing the class though man, your health comes first, if you feel your doing to much and/or risking an injury, that could stuff u up for the rest of your life, then stop doing it...Because to the school your just another number, and if u injure your self, or do something to your body that will hurt your career, they will forget about u within a blink. Just remember that, and nice work out too man.
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    "I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street."
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    "It's simple, if it jiggles, it's fat."
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSicilian
    wooahh..you have a weightlifting class?...There are such things as those at school? Geez, talk about schools taking competition serious lol!
    Dont worry about failing the class though man, your health comes first, if you feel your doing to much and/or risking an injury, that could stuff u up for the rest of your life, then stop doing it...Because to the school your just another number, and if u injure your self, or do something to your body that will hurt your career, they will forget about u within a blink. Just remember that, and nice work out too man.
    Ciao
    I don't think I'm going to injure myself in anyway, but sometimes I feel my muscles just get enough rest. It's nothing too serious.

    Yesterday I started my bench work out then decided to max out.

    Bench:
    135x10 warm up
    185x6
    210x4
    235x2 (got them both this time)
    245x1
    255x1 this was hard so I just stopped going up.
    185x8

    I might have been able to have gotten 260, but I did more than I usually do to warm up for a max and was tired. I realized why I wasn't gaining weight...I DON'T EAT ON FRIDAY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY!
    Look at my diet yesterday...it's pathetic.
    Cals: 3654
    Fat: 123
    Carbs: 509
    Protein: 145
    6'1 220
    BF~15%-20%?
    Bench- 260
    Squat- 365
    Clean- 215

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    I really have to concentrate on eating on the weekends, eventhough I don't lift weights on the them. I'm already up to 225, but I know it will get a lot harder. My dietary stats for today are a lot better than yesterdays, but still not as good as they are during the week.
    Cals: 4616
    Fat 139
    Cals: 577
    Protein: 238

    This is what I have eaten/plan to eat for today so you can critique me on that.

    Breakfast (around 12:30 kept it light): Waffle
    Brunch (around 2:15, still kept it light): Yogurt
    Lunch (around 3:30, Huge): Large Quiznos Misquite Chicken with Bacon, 2 pieces of pepperoni pizza, large chocolate chip cookie, close to expiring protein bar.
    Dinner (mid sized 7:30ish): 12 oz steak, brocolli, Baked potato with butter
    Dessert kinda (around 12:30-1): Weight Gainer, Peanuts
    6'1 220
    BF~15%-20%?
    Bench- 260
    Squat- 365
    Clean- 215

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    DUDE you already as strong as some of the beast at my school (sept i think they squat a little more ) by the way what position do you play. I play d-line and Oline but trying to get to line backer and tightend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trooperplayer
    DUDE you already as strong as some of the beast at my school (sept i think they squat a little more ) by the way what position do you play. I play d-line and Oline but trying to get to line backer and tightend.
    Right now I play Offensive Tackle. I was thinking after my senior year I would cut like crazy to about 220 and maybe walk on as a line backer on a practice squad in college.

    My squat should be more, but I made a huge mistake at the end of my sohpmore year I got 365, so I decided when I maxed out I'd get 385 no matter what. I was sooooo close to getting it, but I couldn't. I tried about 4 times, and after that, I was done. So I'm guessing now I could do 385, but I couldn't get anything that day.
    6'1 220
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    Bench- 260
    Squat- 365
    Clean- 215

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    oooooo that blows what were your stats sophomore year
    BeNcH: 145*5 *new-4-18-05
    SqUaT:rep 205*8new\225
    DeAdLiFt: 235 new\400
    ClEaN:145*5
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    Quote Originally Posted by trooperplayer
    oooooo that blows what were your stats sophomore year
    The beginning:
    Height 5'11 almost 6'
    Weight: 205
    Bench: 185
    Squat: 250
    Powerclean: 165

    The End:
    Height 6' almost 6'1
    Weight: 225
    Bench: 235
    Squat: 365
    Powerclean: 195

    I got really sick recently and lost 15 lbs, thus why I weigh the same now as I did at the end of sophmore year. I also gain a lot of weight in the off season.
    6'1 220
    BF~15%-20%?
    Bench- 260
    Squat- 365
    Clean- 215

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    danm dude you were pretty strong and now your friggin stronger
    my expectation is to be lifting 200 in lets say 3 months if all goes well
    are you the strongest guy on the team or na
    BeNcH: 145*5 *new-4-18-05
    SqUaT:rep 205*8new\225
    DeAdLiFt: 235 new\400
    ClEaN:145*5
    Unless you try to do something beyond what you have already mastered, you will never grow.

    pain is temporary glory is forever

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    Quote Originally Posted by trooperplayer
    danm dude you were pretty strong and now your friggin stronger
    my expectation is to be lifting 200 in lets say 3 months if all goes well
    are you the strongest guy on the team or na
    Not even close. One of my friends he's probably 5'11 and weighs 220. Benches a predicted 385, Squats 500, and power cleans 250. Next year I won't be the weakest person on the O-Line, but I will definently not be the strongest (eventhough it'd be awesome if I was). There are a lot of big people on my team. Our starting line this year has a guy who's 6'6 300lbs eventhough he isn't very strong he can move well for his size. We also have a 6'1 280 lber who squats 550 and benches 300 something and powercleans 275. Our team is actually really big even in positions other than the O-Line and D-line.
    6'1 220
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    Bench- 260
    Squat- 365
    Clean- 215

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    I don't work out on the weekends so here are my dietary stats
    Cals: 4846
    Fat: 161
    Carbs: 594
    Protein: 241
    6'1 220
    BF~15%-20%?
    Bench- 260
    Squat- 365
    Clean- 215

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    AY WEY thats crazy but ive seen no one yet compare to my uncle yet his senior year he was benching 455 squating 600 and deadlifting 760 and all this just weighing in at just under 200 pounds..... OOOH YEAHH
    BeNcH: 145*5 *new-4-18-05
    SqUaT:rep 205*8new\225
    DeAdLiFt: 235 new\400
    ClEaN:145*5
    Unless you try to do something beyond what you have already mastered, you will never grow.

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    Wow. I'm already up to 228 I must have been eating like **** before this gain. I felt amazingly strong today.

    Squats:
    135x10
    225x5
    245x5
    265x5
    295x5
    315x5!!!
    335x3!!!!!

    I felt really strong, so I just kept going

    Power Clean:
    135x6
    145x4
    165x4
    175x4
    185x3
    195x2

    This felt all right. I'm really not good at these at all. No technique.

    Lat Pulls:
    115x8
    135x8
    135x(Felt really hard)

    Super setted with DB curls:
    35x10 each arm
    40x10
    45x10
    50x7!!! first time trying 50s

    Calf raises:
    470x15
    470x15
    470x15
    470x15 These started to burn but were fairly easy

    That's all I got done today. Overall the workout felt good and strong.

    Dietary Stats:
    cal: 5372
    Fat: 154
    Carbs: 822
    Protein: 176

    I need some more protein for today so if anyone has any suggestions on something I can throw into my shake for tonight please answer.
    6'1 220
    BF~15%-20%?
    Bench- 260
    Squat- 365
    Clean- 215

    Beastasaurus Rex

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    I felt really strong today. I can definently tell I'm gaining on my diet.

    Bench
    135x10
    185x6
    210x4
    240x2
    205x8

    I was throwing these sets up like nothing. It felt awesome.

    DB Flat Bench
    60x8
    65x8
    70x8
    70x6

    Skull Crusher/Close Grip Bench right after Skulls
    75x10
    75x10
    85x10
    85x10

    I got a huge pump out of my tris after this one

    Upright Rows
    95x10

    supersetted with

    Power Snatches
    95x10

    supersetted with

    Overhead Press
    95x10

    Supersetted with

    bent over rows
    95x10

    This crazy super set killed my shoulders and that was all the time I had. Todays workout felt really nice though. Everything felt good.

    Dietary Stats:
    Cals: 5603
    Fat:181
    Carbs: 766
    Protein: 231
    6'1 220
    BF~15%-20%?
    Bench- 260
    Squat- 365
    Clean- 215

    Beastasaurus Rex

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    haven't worked out the past couple days, but i've kept my diet in check. I still weight 228.
    6'1 220
    BF~15%-20%?
    Bench- 260
    Squat- 365
    Clean- 215

    Beastasaurus Rex

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