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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #1
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    Why doesnt size equal strength

    I saw this guy the other day benching like 310 for 6 times, while I am giving my all doing 225 6 times. yet I was like twice the size of this guy. Every time I see people they say I should be doing so much more for my size. Even this little punk I know that i would drop in a heartbeat is like pumping more on the bench than me. My cousin who just got out of the joint is like 60 llbs less than me, and he said he was benching like 370. WTF? I aint no pussy by no means, but why am i not throwing up the serious poundage I should be for someone my size?

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    There is a lot of other factors. Leverage, mechanics, training, etc. Some people are naturally strong or built better to perform certain lifts. Some people train directly for strength. If you are worried about strength, you should switch to a strength program instead of a bb program.
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    Ya, I'm in the same boat. My dad weighs about 5 lbs less than me, but he benches probably 50 lbs more than. And he's had surgery on his shoulder that has 'hindered' his training.

    Like Lat said it depends on a lot of factors. The amount of time that you have been training counts for a lot too. Just because you might weigh 300 lbs and have been training for 2 months. You probably won't be benching more than someone who weighs 170 lbs and has been training for over a year. (Just an example)

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    True. its true

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    I would rather be big, and lift less, than be small and have alot of strength. Imagine they feel benching more than you, but you are the one with the size.

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    I`m 194 lbs now, my lifts are more like a 150 pounders.

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    I'm the opposite Fishey. I'd rather be stronger than bigger.


    In a perfect world I'd be stronger and bigger.....
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    strength is important. would you want to be a huge guy with nothing to show for it? Increasing in weights on your lifts is motivation. I weigh 172 5'9 and I can throw up 225 on bench 6 times. I rather be stronger than bigger. Strength is of actual use in the real world where as being big is only to attract the ladies but won't keep the ladies.

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    as latman says it often down to joints, skill etc.
    there are different fast (1 and 11)and slow twitch ratio that are also important. also some smaller people bench more than i do. but i can do more pull ups, rows then they do. so my overall chest measurement is bigger as a reuslt.
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    I agree with LATMAN

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    I'm alot weaker than I look. I'm actually quite a girl when it comes to poundages. So I can sympathize. Just keep getting bigger and soon enough no one will have the balls to ask you what you bench. When they do, just chuckle and say "A lot."
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    Some people are more physically gifted than others, just like some people are born with more natural musical talent than others.

    Comparing yourself to other people is dangerous though...no matter how big or strong you get, there will always be someone bigger or stronger. Measuring your progress against yourself (i.e., looking at where you are vs. where you were when you started) is probably more relevant and more realistic, IMHO.

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    I think it's weird these little guys get so strong, yet they don't get big. Like you stated "why get so big and have nothign to show with strenght?" but I could say the same as in "why get strong when you have no size to show for?" I'm guessing it's cuz they don't feed themselves enough, or they just have trouble building muscle. My goal is to be massive AND strong as a bull.

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    Originally posted by notSoBig Guy
    "why get strong when you have no size to show for?"
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    Exactly Belial
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    Its usually lack of proper nutrition. I think diet is the reason for lack of size gain in 90% of the cases. (The other 10 being rest/training).
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    "Strength and size don't matter! It's not fair to judge training knowledge based on strength and size!"
    ~This is something wussy people say to feel better about themselves...

    Pearls of Wisdom...


    Resident Ninja Demon (with a pet Radioactive Sloth) and SchlonkeyMaster of WBB!

    Rock is my 'Big Viking Brother', and not in a homo-esque way.

    And no COLON jokes, bastards!

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    *gives belial a protien shake*

    gyno, also it has alot to do with the training, superlow reps just arent optimal for growth.
    "The whole jedi thing was just not compatible with my lifestyle. My master was jelous he was always holding me back, -"be mindfull of the future, but live in the present"- what the hell does that mean? I even got my arm cut off...it just sucked. So i switched to the dark side and i havent looked back once...Now i am shooting lightning from my fingertips, choking people over the phone, i even get to wear a cape.....its just boss. My name is Anikin skywalker and i am a sith lord."

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    I'm not talking about superslow training. Besides, much less than 10% of the weight training population uses superslow.
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    "All that matters is beauty on the inside! Outside beauty doesn't matter!"
    ~This is something ugly people say to feel better about themselves...

    "Strength and size don't matter! It's not fair to judge training knowledge based on strength and size!"
    ~This is something wussy people say to feel better about themselves...

    Pearls of Wisdom...


    Resident Ninja Demon (with a pet Radioactive Sloth) and SchlonkeyMaster of WBB!

    Rock is my 'Big Viking Brother', and not in a homo-esque way.

    And no COLON jokes, bastards!

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    I guess I agree with the notion of being a bigger, but not being able to throw up all these massive weights, than being smaller and being able to lift a lot. Case in point. Last Friday, I was at the gym , and this dude was there going off like a maniac, lifting like a beast, a shitload of weight, well a lot more than me, and he was all pumped and looked kinda diesel and I was like , damn, this dude is a bad ass. Later that same night, I was in a bar, and some kid walks up to me and says whats up. It was him! Now dressed in regular clothes, and standing next to me, I absolutely dwarfed this guy. I was like, geez, I thought he was kinda big, but he was so unimpressive outside in the real world , compared to when I see him throwing up 300 for 5 reps. Its so strange how we see people in a different view.

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    It has a lot to do w/ how you've been training. My guess is you've been training for hypertrophy, which is not the best for increasing strength. I myself would prefer to be kick-ass strong than huge. A big guy/girl who's weak is not nearly as impressive as an average-sized guy/girl who's amazingly strong.

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    Actually, I think if you look good, who gives a hoot what you lift. People worry about poundages too much.

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    Originally posted by mr_hand
    Actually, I think if you look good, who gives a hoot what you lift. People worry about poundages too much.
    i couldn't agree more.
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    Originally posted by mr_hand
    Actually, I think if you look good, who gives a hoot what you lift. People worry about poundages too much.
    I couldn't disagree more.


    When you have to help a family member or a girlfriend move some furniture, you wanna call somebody else to lift it? I am more impressed with a guy who can "use" his muscle and not just show it.
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    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Originally posted by LATMAN


    I couldn't disagree more.


    When you have to help a family member or a girlfriend move some furniture, you wanna call somebody else to lift it? I am more impressed with a guy who can "use" his muscle and not just show it.
    I couldn't agree more

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    I also agree, but bench pressing is a little different than carrying furniture.

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