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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Tricep Kickbacks and left shoulder joint pain

    I'm extremely weak, I was doing tricep kickbacks with 20 lbs. dumbells, my right arm seems to be okay, but when I do on my left my shoulders would hurt and It is stopping me from finishing a set.

    Could rotator cuff exercise fix this problem or should I get an X-ray by the doc ?

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    friends dont let friends do dumbbell kickbacks

    is it extreme pain/sharp pain?? or just sort of sore... and does it only happen when doing kickbacks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinnySadMan
    I'm extremely weak, I was doing tricep kickbacks with 20 lbs. dumbells, my right arm seems to be okay, but when I do on my left my shoulders would hurt and It is stopping me from finishing a set.

    Could rotator cuff exercise fix this problem or should I get an X-ray by the doc ?
    I doubt it's your rotator cuff. Are you doing these after a shoulder workout?

    I have the exact opposite problem right now. Kickbacks are about the only tri thing I can do that doesn't cause pain, hah.

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    Sharp pain, it wouldn't hurt much while doing tricep kickbacks, but as I put down the weight I would REALLY feel it. Only happens while during kickbacks.

    I still feel some popping on my left shoulder area when doing tate presses (elbows out extensions), and my left elbow pops when doing Tricep Overhead Extensions. Maybe the weight is too heavy for me? I also hear some popping noises in left shoulder again when doing lateral raises.

    BTW are kickbacks a bad exercise to do anyways?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HahnB
    I doubt it's your rotator cuff. Are you doing these after a shoulder workout?

    I have the exact opposite problem right now. Kickbacks are about the only tri thing I can do that doesn't cause pain, hah.
    I didn't do any shoulder workouts, unless Floor Presses and Dumbell Flyes work the shoulders, I do floor presses because I don't have a bench, nor do I go to a gym, at least not yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinnySadMan
    BTW are kickbacks a bad exercise to do anyways?
    They don't come highly recommended by most.
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    You can fix your problem by doing skull crushers instead of kickbacks.
    Quote Originally Posted by SkinnySadMan
    I still feel some popping on my left shoulder area when doing tate presses (elbows out extensions), and my left elbow pops when doing Tricep Overhead Extensions. Maybe the weight is too heavy for me? I also hear some popping noises in left shoulder again when doing lateral raises.
    Lateral raises are a shoulder exercise. What does you entire routine look like?
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    My routine is rather sad since I only have dumbells at home, but it will change a lot, after I get a gym membership, I don't even have a bench or barbell.

    Monday: Chest
    Floor presses 3x15 (flat bench on the floor)
    Dumbell Flyes 3x15 (on the floor)
    Pushups
    Triceps
    Overhead Tricep Extensions 3x8
    Tate Presses 4x8
    Kickbacks 3x8

    Wednesday: Biceps
    Seated Hammer Curls 3x8
    Concentration Curls 3x8
    Back
    1-arm Bent-over rows 3x20
    Dumbell Shrugs (do they work the back??)

    Friday: Shoulders
    Standing Shoulder press 3x8
    Lateral Raises 3x8
    Legs
    Dumbell Lunges 3x20
    Dumbell Squats 3x20
    Dumbell Stiff legged deadlifts 3x12

    Also I'm a beginner...I'm angry because it's been 3 weeks and the lifts don't feel lighter.
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    Dont even bother with kickbacks, and i wouldnt do 10 sets for triceps seeing as your working chest before which prefatigues the tri's anyway. You should also probably ditch the pushups and do incline floor presses (i used to use a wooden board over my metal suitcase.

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    Also do your back workout before your bicep workout, since most back work incorporates the bis, so they'll be warmed up and ready to go. Shrugs work your traps, which are at the top of your back, but most people do those on shoulder day. Better back exercises would be chin/pullups, lat pulldowns, bb and db rows, pullovers; you could do a good combination of those and see your back take off. Make sure you at least do chinups though. Chinups/pullups are the best lat exercise.

    Are you doing those bent over db rows with straight arms or bent arms?
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    I've always been skeptical about pullovers due to people saying they waork the chest aswell, do they hit your lats well?

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    pullovers = chest

    lats and posterior delts and rhomboids are synergists but the primary mover is the pectoral muscle

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    Thxs for the advice guys!

    I can't even do chin/pull ups btw lol... I'll try and get a door pull up bar....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callahan
    pullovers = chest

    lats and posterior delts and rhomboids are synergists but the primary mover is the pectoral muscle
    ExRx and I would both like to disagree. Pullovers are definately a lat oriented exercise.

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    Good, i needed a new lat excersise and the pullover machine's always unused

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezmason
    I've always been skeptical about pullovers due to people saying they waork the chest aswell, do they hit your lats well?
    Doing pullovers with dbs after the bulk of your lat routine (chins/pullups, maybe pulldowns too) will work your lats real well. As far as working your chest, your lats could get sore from doing bb bench press. Mine almost always do. My chest also is sore after every back workout. Doesn't mean it's being targeted directly, just means it's used as a stabilizer.

    And callahan, your chest rotates your shoulders inward, while your lats make a downward pulling motion, the beginning of which is exactly what is done with pullovers, as gravity doesn't allow for the entire ROM for your lats. That's why the pullover is not good as the only lat exercise, but still the lats are the primary puller for that movement. Your chest does help, but as a stabilizer for keeping your arms as close in as possible, as that's how the chest flexes.
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