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Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Senior Member ryan-'s Avatar
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    Riddle Me This

    Starting my first Journal here. I haven't lifted since last Wednesday, I don't want to start slipping before the holidays even start. So I'm starting to record my workout and diet here, you can all sucker punch me when I slip.

    It's winter, so yes, I'm bulking. I'm on WBB#1 which is going ok, I feel I may be making slower gains than usual, but I know it's easier to gain when you first start out. I've been lifting just over 2 years now.

    Weight: 183
    Height: 5'9"

    edit: My goal is 200 lbs by, oh, say February, then to cut.

    Being the newb that everybody is at some point, I focused mainly on upper body, and didn't even deadlift. I'm making damn sure to do the big 3, and want to make good gains. Deadlift and Squat should be no problem to gain on, but I've always benched and I'm in a little bit of a rut.

    Tuesday:
    Flat Bench : 3 warmup sets, light weight low reps, 2 working sets x 8, 6
    Incline Bench : 2 x 8
    Dips : 2 x 8 (no belt)
    Chin ups : 2 x 8-10
    Deadlifts : 2 x 8
    Barbell Rows : 2 x 8
    Shrugs : 1 x 10


    Thursday:
    Squats : 2 x 6-8
    Super Leg Press Machine Thingy : 2 x 8 (no hack squat machine)
    Leg Curls : 2 x 8
    SLDL : 2 x 8
    Calve Raises : 4 x 15

    Saturday:
    Military Press in Rack : 2 x 8
    Seated Dumbbell Press : 2 x 8, 6
    Standing Lateral Raises : 2 x 10 (some times)
    Narrow Grip bench Press : 2 x 8
    French Press : 2 x 8
    Barbell Curls : 2 x 8
    Hammer Curls : 1 x 6-8

    Sorry, I realize this is pretty much word for word from the WBB routine.

    Any who, my bench is usually 1 set x 195 lbs x 8 reps and 1 set x 205 lbs x 4 reps. I think I need to do 200 for my second set. I just can't push past these numbers.

    I'm squatting at 185 and 205 no problem so I'll increase that quickly.

    I'm deadlifting at 185 right now, any heavier and I think the bar would slip out. I don't want to use straps yet so that I can build up my grip a little.

    Meal 1:
    4 whole eggs
    1 bowl Kashi GoLean or 1/2 cups oats with 3/4 cups 2% milk
    3 fish oil capsules
    1 multi-vitamin

    Meal 2:
    1 serving mixed nuts
    2 cups 2% milk

    Meal 3:
    2 turkey sandwiches, provolone or swiss, wheat bread, light mayo, mustard
    2 cups 2% milk

    Meal 4:
    whatever the wife cooks - she knows my diet, so it's either tuna or chicken and pasta or rice or potatos
    2 cups 2% milk

    Workout

    Meal 5:
    shake
    -3-4 tbsp NPB
    -2 scoops whey
    -2 cups 2% milk
    -1/2 cups oats

    3 fish oil capsules

    1+ gallons of water/day.

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    (See Dec 14)

    Night night time (7 hrs).

    That's all to start. Today is Tuesday, so I'll be lifting tonight, I'll report back.

    Make me bigger and stronger! mmkay thanks.
    Last edited by ryan-; 12-15-2004 at 12:38 PM.

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    12/14/2004

    Just got done.

    Bench (Warmup): 95 x 10, 135 x 8, 155 x 5
    Bench (Working): 195 x 8, 200 x 8
    Incline: 165 x 8, 165 x 6
    Dips: bw x 15 (2 sets)
    Wide Grip Chins: bw x 8, 7
    Deadlifts (Warmup): 95 x 10, 135 x 8
    Deadlifts (Working): 185 x 8, 8
    BO BB Rows: 135 x 8, 145 x 8
    DB Shrugs: 80 x 10
    50 decline situps

    Bench felt good, I'll go up 5lbs each set next time and see how that feels. I think warming up lighter is a big help, I used to warmup with 135x10 and 185x10 which is pretty damn close to my working set.

    Deadlifts felt pretty good, my grip is getting better. It didn't feel like it was about to slip out of my hands.

    On the lighter side, I was walking through the sky way to the gym when I noticed a crippled bat crawling around on the floor. Them are gross.

    Meal 1: 4 eggs, 1/2 cup oats, 3/4 cups 2% milk, 3 fish oil capsules, 1 multivitamin
    Meal 2: 1 serving mixed nuts, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 3: 2 turkey sandwiches, provolone, wheat bread, light mayo, mustard
    Meal 4: turkey boats! 2 cans tuna, 3 slices wheat bread, shredded cheese, 2 cups 2% milk
    Workuot
    Meal 5: shake -- 4 tbsp ANPB, 2 scoops whey, 2 cups 2% milk, 1/2 cup oats, 3 fish oil capsules

    Calories: 3614
    Fat: 136
    Carbs: 273
    Protein: 321
    Last edited by ryan-; 12-15-2004 at 12:39 PM.

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    Meal 1: 4 eggs, 1/2 cup oats, 3/4 cups 2% milk, 3 fish oil capsules, 1 multivitamin
    Meal 2: 1 serving mixed nuts, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 3: 2 turkey sandwiches, provolone, wheat bread, light mayo, mustard
    Meal 4: 2 chicken breasts, 1.5 cups red beans and rice, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 5: shake -- 4 cups 2% milk, 3 tbsp ANPB, 2 scoops whey, 1/2 cup oats

    Calories: 4025
    Fat: 144
    Carbs: 342
    Protein: 326

    OFF DAY
    Last edited by ryan-; 12-15-2004 at 10:00 PM.

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    Uh, is that a raccoon humping a dog?

    Looks like a good routine. I'm doing something similar, i.e. back/chest, legs, arms/shoulders. You'll improve fast on those deads and squats. I'm pretty new here and I'm going to start a journal, too. I figured it might help to post some before pics to be able to compare to later as inspiration. You might want to do it, too.

    Looks like your getting plenty of calories. I wish I could consistently get that many!
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    Good luck with your journal man. Things are looking good in here.

    That avatar is hilarious.
    "you are like my yoda." - chops

    "you are not like yoda at all!" - chops

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    You seem to have a good attitude, stay dedicated!

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    Guido, yeah, it's a racoon humping a dog I wish I would have taken before pics, back when I weighed 130. I would kill to see those. So I suggest doing that if you're starting a bulk.

    Thanks Shane and PizDoff!
    Last edited by ryan-; 12-15-2004 at 06:16 PM.

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    Meal 1: 4 eggs, 1 cup Kashi GoLean, 1 cup 2% milk, 3 fish oil capsules, 1 multivitamin
    Meal 2: 1 serving mixed nuts, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 3: 2 turkey sandwiches, provolone, wheat bread, light mayo, mustard, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 4: homemade chicken and noodle soup (chicken, bow tie pasta, corn, broth), 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 5: shake -- 4 cups 2% milk, 3 tbsp ANPB, 2 scoops whey, 1/2 cup oats

    My boss just dumped a butt-ton of work on me, so I hope to get home at a decent time so I can lift and have some time with the wife. You know which one takes precedence
    Last edited by ryan-; 12-20-2004 at 09:49 PM.

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    Well, had to work an hour later than usual so I had to go lift right after eating a big dinner. So, I'm curious, is it bad to lift right after eating a lot. I lifted probably 30 minutes after eating.

    Any who, onto the good stuff

    Squats:
    Warmup: 95 x 5, 135 x 6, 155 x 6
    Working: 205 x 8, 225 x 8

    Super Leg Press Thingy: 230 x 8, 260 x 8 (something like that, who cares, it's a stupid machine)

    Leg Curls: 55 x 8, 60 x 8 (one leg at a time)

    SLDL: 95 x 8, 135 x 8, 155 x 8

    Incline Slide Calf-raises: 2 sets of 20

    So my squats were awesome, I've never attempted that much before but I must say, I did 225 x 8 quite handly. Oh, and during my warmup sets I ripped my boxers but didn't know what I ripped so I'm sitting there squatting trying to spare some dignity when all along it was only my boxers. I thought I ripped my shorts and my ass was hanging out, boy was my face red.

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    HAAH!!! That's why I always wear 'athletic' boxers when working out.
    Elasticky!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan-
    Guido, yeah, it's a racoon humping a dog I wish I would have taken before pics...
    That sentence sounds real funny if you cut it off after the word pics.
    Best way to cheat on deadlifts...

    Stand there for a few minutes, then pace back and forth a lot, huff and puff, wait until everybody's looking. Approach the bar. Back off. Approach it again. Back off. Get some water. Chalk up. Approach the bar again. Then spray some more chalk around. Wait until people start losing interest. When nobody's looking, pick it a little off the floor, and slam it down. Jump up and yell "LIGHT WEIGHT BABY". Then give high fives all around. - Belial

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Nissen
    That sentence sounds real funny if you cut it off after the word pics.
    touche.

    Quote Originally Posted by PizDoff
    HAAH!!! That's why I always wear 'athletic' boxers when working out.
    Elasticky!
    I have some of those elasticky shorts, I guess I'll start wearing them. They get so hot though.

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    If you look at my post wo shake, it is bad to drink that an hour before bed?

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    your shake looks fine, drink up

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    Ahh crikey. What a ****ty day, weekends I just fall apart with my diet. I didn't get to lift today b/c I had to go do some IT support work for my brother-in-law and then babysit his daughter, which I'm still doing. I'll do today's workout tomorrow, I promise.

    Meal 1: 4 eggs, 1 cup Kashi GoLean, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 2: Arby's giant roast beef, fries, coke
    Meal 3: Tuna pita; 1 can tuna, 1 tbsp light mayo, 1 pita, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 4: shake; 4 cups 2% milk, 3 tbsp ANPB, 2 scoops whey, 1/2 cup oats
    Meal 5: 1 cup Kashi GoLean, 2 cups 2% milk
    Last edited by ryan-; 12-19-2004 at 01:16 PM.

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    Meal 1: 4 eggs, 1 cup Kashi GoLean, 2 cups 2% milk
    Workout
    Meal 2: shake; 3 cups 2% milk, 4 tbsp ANPB, 2 scoops whey, 1/2 cup oats
    Meal 3: chicken, pork, some other chicken, grits, cheese cake

    3 meals, 2 solid, that's ****ing pathetic. I need to get my ass in gear on the weekends.

    Workout
    DB Mil Press (Warmup): 40 x 8, 50 x 8
    DB Mil Press (Working): 65 x 8, 65 x 8
    BB Mil Press: 115 x 7, 115 x 8
    Side Raises: 25 x 10, 25 x 10

    Close Grip Bench: 145 x 8, 155 x 8
    French Curl: 85 x 8, 95 x 5 (assuming an ez-curl bar is 25 lbs)

    EZ-Bar BB Curls: 75 x 8, 75 x 8
    DB Hammer Curls: 40 x 7

    50 decline situps

    Close Grip Bench was definately too light, will increase that 5-10 lbs each set next time. Other than that everything felt pretty dandy. The biggest guy there asked me for a spot, that's always an ego booster. Another guy asked me for a spot too, but nobody else was around.. so lets not rain on my parade. (I only point this out b/c nobody ever asks for a spot, and today 2 people did.)

    Wife's Christmas party tonight, so hopefully I'll get a good filet mignon with some mashed potatoes or something.

    Other than that, sitting here in St. Paul watching the Vikings lose to Detroit, and I'm loving it. Maybe Mike Tice will get fired. He can take Moss with him.
    Last edited by ryan-; 12-19-2004 at 09:13 PM.

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    Meal 1: 4 eggs, 1 cup Kashi GoLean, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 2: 1 serving mixed nuts
    Meal 3: 2 turkey sandwiches, provolone, wheat bread, light mayo, mustard, 4 cups 2% milk
    Meal 4: mashed potatoes, 2 chicken breasts, spaghettie sauce, corn, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 5: shake -- 4 cups 2% milk, 3 tbsp ANPB, 2 scoops whey, 1/2 cup oats

    Don't know what to say, nothing happened today.
    Last edited by ryan-; 12-20-2004 at 09:48 PM.

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    Your meals seem right on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by squatsrmylife
    Your meals seem right on!
    Yea, looks like you're getting some good meals. I deffinately need to work on that area for myself.

    Nice work!

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    Oh hey, thanks guys!

    Meal 1: 4 eggs, 1 cup Kashi GoLean, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 2: 1 serving mixed nuts, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 3: 2 turkey sandwiches, provolone, wheat bread, light mayo, mustard, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 4: 1 baked potato, 2 chicken breasts w/bbq, 1 blue berry muffin, 2 cups 2% milk
    -workout-
    Meal 5: 1/2 cup oats, 2 scoops whey, 3 cups 2% milk, 4 tbsp ANPB

    Bench (Warmup): 95 x 8, 135 x 8, 155 x 6
    Bench (Working): 200 x 8, 205 x 8
    Incline: 165 x 8, 165 x 7
    Dips: N/A
    Wide Grip Chins: bw x 8
    Deadlifts (Warmup): 95 x 8, 135 x 8
    Deadlifts (Working): 195 x 8, 8
    BO BB Rows: N/A
    DB Shrugs: 80 x 10

    Was having some accute lower back pain today so skipped a couple of things. Increased my working sets on bench by 5 lbs each, not much but span it over a few weeks and it adds up. I hope I can keep it up. Incline is frickin' hard, I can't quite get past 165. My deadlifts are increasing quickly and easily as expected. The only thing I thought that might hold me back is my grip and it's holding up just fine. I get a bet sweaty by my last set but I'll live.

    I'm thinking about getting a belt for dips. Dips x body weight is gay.
    Last edited by ryan-; 12-21-2004 at 08:23 PM.

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    Well crap.

    I was gone for 4 days, which means I haven't lifted for 4 days. Also, when I go to my parents house I eat very little, because they have little food, and the food they do have is horrible for you. How bad is it if I'm bulking to not bulk for those 4 days? Have I lost a lot of ground?

    I'm going to lift tomorrow and I can't wait to get back into my routine, sheesh.

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    I'm so unmotivated to post right now.

    Squat (Warmup): 95x8, 135x8
    Squat (Working): 225x8, 235x8
    Leg Curls: 50x8, 50x8
    SLDL: 95x8, 135x8, 135x8
    Calf Raises: alot x 15 x 4 sets

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    Meal 1: 4 eggs, 1 cup Kashi GoLean, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 2: 1 serving mixed nuts, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 3: Large Italian (Quizno's), 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 4: home-made chicken noodle soup, 25 saltines, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 5: 1/2 cup oats, 2 scoops whey, 3 cups 2% milk, 4 tbsp ANPB

    ...whatever...
    Last edited by ryan-; 12-28-2004 at 09:51 PM.

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    Meal 1: 4 eggs, 1 cup Kashi GoLean, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 2: 1 serving mixed nuts, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 3: 2 turkey sandwiches, swiss, wheat bread, light may, mustard, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 4: thai peanut chicken (2 chicken breasts, pasta noodles), 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 5: 1/2 cup oats, 2 scoops whey, 3 cups 2% milk, 4 tbsp ANPB

    Bench (Warmup): 95 x 10, 135 x 8, 155 x 6
    Bench (Working): 205 x 8, 210 x 6
    Incline: 165 x 6, 155 x 8
    Lat Pulldowns: 125 x 8, 150 x 8
    Deadlifts (Warmup): 95 x 10, 135 x 8
    Deadlifts (Working): 185 x 8, 185 x 8

    I'm a pussy lately, I didn't do dips, I did pulldowns instead of pull-ups, I forgot shrugs and I didn't do rows. Sheesh, at least I got bench and deadlifts in though right?

    C'mon people, motivate me.

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    Well, it's January, I go to the Cayman Islands mid March, so you know what that means.

    Cuttin time! My first cut ever.

    I'm going to continue to lift heavy, I'll eat light, 2000 calories a day approximately, and I probably won't do any cardio to start with.

    Any suggestion would be great.

    Meal 1: 1.5 cups Kashi GoLean, 1 cup 2% milk
    Meal 2: 1 serving mixed nuts
    Meal 3: 1 turkey sandwiches, swiss, wheat bread, light may, mustard, 2 cups 2% milk
    Meal 4: chicken chilli (corn, kidney beans, chicken)
    Meal 5: 2 cups 2% milk, 2 scoops whey

    Bench (Warmup): 95 x 10, 135 x 8, 155 x 6
    Bench (Working): 210 x 8, 215 x 7
    Incline: 155 x 8, 165 x 7
    Pullups: 8, 7
    Deadlifts (Warmup): 95 x 10, 135 x 8
    Deadlifts (Working): 195 x 8, 195 x 8
    Last edited by ryan-; 01-05-2005 at 09:14 PM.

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