Getting to the weighted stage of dips is pretty easy right?
So how many here add significant weight when doing chin ups, 25lbs or more, for at least 2 x 6-8 reps. I'm talking about the palm facing forward, hands at least double shoulder width variant.
Thing is I might be just about able to add an extra 25 lbs for a couple of sets of five or six reps, but that's it. Which isn't that impressive considering I only weigh 190lbs at 6'4". I don't see any people in the gym actually adding weight, nor do I read of it on here. I've effectivley plateaued here for about three months now.
So who does add weight, and why is it so damn hard to make progress on this exercis?
i never do wide grip pullups, no point all you are doing is limiting your rom.
somewhat what I eat...
Im adding weights, im at 70lbs for 5/6 reps,
But bear in mind chinups/neutral grip are all i do for lats & biceps
Also why do you do the ultra-wide grip??? Thats totally mechanically inefficient not to mention dangerous to your shoulders
Cos' that's the exercise that seems to target my lats best. I go about double shoulder width, maybe a little more. That's how I see it performed everywhere I look. If I go too narrow, it just feels like a bicep exercise.
have you noticed that going that wide, you only have like a foot and a half ROM? Try shoulder-width grip, and keep your elbows out wide. If that doesn't hit your lats just as good, then you're doing something wrong.Originally Posted by Mad Max
If you're not lifting hard, you're taking up space.
Get the f$*# out.
24 years old
205lbs. ->212lbs. as of 10.22.04 -> 219lbs. as of 12.10.04
10% bf ->11% -> 12%
46 1/2" chest ->47" -> 48"
17 1/2" arms ->17 3/4" -> 18"
32" waist ->same -> 33"
26" quads -> 27 1/2" -> 28 1/2"
17" calves -> 17 3/4" -> 18"
(I'm still working on these as of 12.13.04)
updated 10.14.04, and again on 12.13.04
Shoulder width or slightly outside is all you need. Everyone here is right, wide grip is bad!
And yes, I do weighted pullups, overhand grip, with more than 25lbs extra for reps.
Ok then I'll try a narrower grip for a little while, I've harldy been making massive gains with the wide grip. Still, I have seen articles in muscle mags advocating wide grip pull ups, pull downs, for building 'wide' lats. I know it's been debated hundreds of times here.
'Maybe narrower grip pull ups develop 'thick' lats, but not necessarily wide ones.'
Ok, tear that statement apart.
I could definitely add weight to the shoulder-wide grip, but not to the wide grip chins. The latter -- as everyone has mentioned -- is really dangerous for your shoulders. In fact, that's why I don't do them anymore: tore a muscle in my shoulder* a year ago, and it kept me out of the gym for a while.
*To be fair, my left shoulder is kind of prone to injury.
Yeah. Weighted Chins are solid. I just got done doing a set with 35 lbs on my belt. They are hard as hell, close-grip with palms facing you, or wide-grip either one. I wouldn't suggest people doing them every single workout, but you can change up the form of doing negative only's, or forced negatives at the end, or static hold's where you stay up on the chin bar, and hang for as long as you can, with your chin above the bar. That is brutal.
Keep working hard, and weighted chins are always something to strive for.
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It's totally wrong. Next?Originally Posted by Mad Max
i do weighted chins one back workout and weigted pulls the next