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It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    monster in training DarrenEff's Avatar
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    Often tired

    Since I was 12, I havent been able to breathe through both nostrils at the same time, meaning so it feels like I constantly have a cold. Now I went to the doctor a year or 2 back before I started lifting and he said, take anything that collects dust out of your room and start eating right. So now I have no carpet and very little stuff in my room, I open the windows daily etc. I still have this breathing problem, however I sleep 7-9 hours a night but come 2:00 in the afternoon after my classes, I can pass out for 3 hours. But if I sleep during the day, I can't sleep at night, and wind up sleeping less at night and having to nap longer during the day. Any chance me getting a lack of oxygen at night (usually I end up breathing through my noise all night) could be causing this constant fatigue? I highly doubt it has to do with what and how I eat, any input?

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    I think you may just be "off schedule" with naps and stuff. I started to fall into that habit and its hard to break. Make sure that you are getting vitamins as well as plenty of H20.

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    Sounds like you have a deviated septum, and this should go into the general health forum. I would ask your doctor, but taking a nap during the day isn't abnormal, even if you get 7-9 hours of sleep.

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    But honestly, once the afternoon rolls around I can sleep 3 hours, and still manage to be tired the rest of the night (despite not actually physically falling asleep). Im also taking a multivitamin.

    Whats a deviated septum? =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrenEff
    Since I was 12, I havent been able to breathe through both nostrils at the same time, meaning so it feels like I constantly have a cold. Now I went to the doctor a year or 2 back before I started lifting and he said, take anything that collects dust out of your room and start eating right. So now I have no carpet and very little stuff in my room, I open the windows daily etc. I still have this breathing problem, however I sleep 7-9 hours a night but come 2:00 in the afternoon after my classes, I can pass out for 3 hours. But if I sleep during the day, I can't sleep at night, and wind up sleeping less at night and having to nap longer during the day. Any chance me getting a lack of oxygen at night (usually I end up breathing through my noise all night) could be causing this constant fatigue? I highly doubt it has to do with what and how I eat, any input?
    You ought to go to a sleep doctor. Do you snore? Do you stop breathing (hold your breath) for short periods of time (20-60 secs) while sleeping? These are signs of sleep apnea. I have it and I used to be tired just like you. I now use a breathing machine that forces about 8 lbs of air down my throat to keep my throat open and air flowing. After the first 2 nights using the machine, I felt like a new person.

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    Might be something wrong with your pillow, no joke, a friend of mine was allergic to some type of down or whatever in his pillow and couldn't breathe through his nose at all.
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    I dont snore large amounts, my gf says I do some nights, and dont others. I have no idea if I stop breathing during sleep, it never wakes me up?

    And Ares thanks, but I've tried new pillows and bed sheets

    I should have also mentioned I'm unnaturally woken up (alarm clock) on weekdays and it sucks, but say if I goto bed on a Friday night at 1-2 I still wake up Saturday at like 9-10 unable to sleep anymore, but again...come mid afternoon im exhausted

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    Im sorta in the same boat now. But, mines due to the backshift work. I take caffeine to stay awake every day and melatonin to help me sleep every morning. I don't advise that though.
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    this sound pretty serious. If your medical doctor can't determine what's wrong with you find another one. I've gone thru 3 doctors to find out all my problems. A dietition was able to find out what was wrong with me when no medical doctor could.
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    I've had nasal problems all of my life, doctor told me it was tied in with my asthma. Through my life (now 30) it has caused a few problems sleeping especially during winter months when my nose it more blocked up than usual.

    I take these nasal tablets (herbal) and then do wonders for me. Plus I also find as long as I get lots of fresh air and blow my nose very very often I can control it. Also cardio does wonders for nasal issues I've found.

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    go see an ENT specialist dont waste time with general practicioners

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    Quote Originally Posted by idzeroone
    You ought to go to a sleep doctor.
    I agree. A sleep specialist is your best bet.
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrenEff
    But honestly, once the afternoon rolls around I can sleep 3 hours, and still manage to be tired the rest of the night (despite not actually physically falling asleep). Im also taking a multivitamin.

    Whats a deviated septum? =P
    It's when your nose is crooked, either on the inside or outside. A couple of my friends had this, and had the exact same symptons as you. I can almost guarantee that's the problem if you have trouble breathing through your nose correctly. Go see a good doc.

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    Alright guys, thanks for all your help. I'm going to go see my family doc within the next few days, just to update him and have him recommend a specialist or something.

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    Well that problems with sleeping happens to me after I eat lunch in school. Whenever I eat I find myself tired and needing to nap for some reason but when i dont eat I'm normal no prob at all. Just dont nap, you'll ge tired but suck it up dont nap and go to sleep normal everyday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrenEff
    Alright guys, thanks for all your help. I'm going to go see my family doc within the next few days, just to update him and have him recommend a specialist or something.
    why? thats such a waste of time and money...
    you dont need a general practicioner, you need a specialist...

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    He could have health insurance though and I know some insurance companies require your principal doctor to refer you to a specialist before they will pay.
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    its the health plan, not the company.
    HMO's require you to see a general first, the flaw in this is the general is gonna want to fix EVERY problem you have so they can make more money, also they have to pay out if they refer peeps to specialists (I believe)

    vs a PPO plan where you go directly to specialists and there is ZERO need to ever go to a general unless you need a physical

    If you ever have a choice PPO is by far the way to go IMHO.


    In this case Darrens general is gonna wanna try a bunch of things to see if he can fix the problem (and make more money) before sending him to someone that is an expert in the area. With something as complex as sinus issues can be I wouldn't trust a general...(as I'm someone thats already had 4 different sinus operations)
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    Im canadian...I can go see the doctor whenever I want, about whatever I want, for free =D

    And he's been a friend of the family since before I was born, so he'll definitely just give me the name of someone good

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    I can't breath out of my nostrils either, they have been plugged for about 4 months and I am always tired as well, the dr. told me to remove dusty stuff in my room also but I never. One dr. said I had sinusitis and a different dr. said I didn't, I dunno what the **** I have, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronKidd
    I can't breath out of my nostrils either, they have been plugged for about 4 months and I am always tired as well, the dr. told me to remove dusty stuff in my room also but I never.
    removing dusty stuff and anything thats a hot bed for mold (books) + improving ventilation is one of the first things any doc will tell ya if you have sinus problems, as these spores tend to aggravate allergies.

    The second most common recommendation is to begin using saline sprays as they are very theraputic (apparently)

    In colder months the lack of humidity in certain locations only exacerbates these problems.

    You most likely need a CT scan to diagnose sinusitis, even if your symptoms are text book.

    I have chronic sinusitis.
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    Iv'e got my sinus's X-rayed and the Dr. never phoned back so I aint really sure, I also got a few blood tests done and there was no call back either.
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    you know you're allowed to call them, right? I've found when I processed medical transcriptions that a lot of the receptionists in doctors offices arent the brightest crayons in the box
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    thats kinda bizarre...
    I'd follow up with ur doctors to get an answer one way or another.

    My mom (an ex RN) has caught tons of doctor slip-ups and mis-diagnosis's for our family over the years, when I was a baby she went to 5 doctors till one finally recognized that I had a sublingual hernia (which she knew I had), doctors certainly aren't infallible....

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoffgarcia
    .....I had a sublingual hernia.....
    You mean an inguinal hernia? I don't think there is such a thing as a "sublingual" hernia.
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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