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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    bench, deadlift & eat!!!!! Mic Soloist's Avatar
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    Anthony Ellis Training Guide?

    my training partner ordered the Another Ellis program and book. He's taking it as gospel and I have read a lot of it, and I think there is a lot of BS in the book. And I don't really wanna take a lot of advice from such a skinny lil dude. haha... anyone try this or anyone have opinions on the man or his program?
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    Who is he?
    I've never heard of him.....That's not good if he is suppose to be "A guru"
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    Bench...- 303..........................Bench....- 300....Paused in meet - 281
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    Also never heard of him

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    Anthony Ellis was one of the first winners of the "Body For Life" challenge when it first was developed by Bill Phillips. So, since he won, he probably thinks he knows more than he really does.

    "Success is never behind you, it is always, always in front of you."

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    he is the guy who says he did this in 12 weeks?
    without roids mind you
    Last edited by Cubby; 01-30-2005 at 02:56 PM.

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    Thats a nice transformation.
    To me it looks attainable without gear.
    He was probly new to working out, I'll assume good genetics, and he had his training/diet right at the time.
    Best Meet @ Lifts@181:...............Best gym lifts
    Squat...- 403..........................Squat....- 395 w/belt
    Bench...- 303..........................Bench....- 300....Paused in meet - 281
    Deadlift.- 503.....Unofficial 513...Deadlift..- 490
    Total....- 1,203...IPF Class II......All done raw, Touch'n go bench

    "Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly" Robert F. Kennedy

    "A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he gives up"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam MacKinnon
    Thats a nice transformation.
    To me it looks attainable without gear.
    He was probly new to working out, I'll assume good genetics, and he had his training/diet right at the time.

    In the first pic he looks like somebody cut and pasted his face there. First pic looks fake.

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    His head looks big for his body. Pic doesn't look fake to me.
    Best Meet @ Lifts@181:...............Best gym lifts
    Squat...- 403..........................Squat....- 395 w/belt
    Bench...- 303..........................Bench....- 300....Paused in meet - 281
    Deadlift.- 503.....Unofficial 513...Deadlift..- 490
    Total....- 1,203...IPF Class II......All done raw, Touch'n go bench

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    "A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he gives up"

    "However beautiful the strategy you should occasionally look at the results" John Berardi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam MacKinnon
    Thats a nice transformation.
    To me it looks attainable without gear.
    He was probly new to working out, I'll assume good genetics, and he had his training/diet right at the time.
    well he said on his site (http://www.skinnyguy.net) that he had been weight trainihg for years and got no results, and that his genetics werent good, and that he did that in 12 weeks, is it just me or is that really amazing or really fake

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    If his genetics were not good and he has years of experiance that would no be achievable in 5months.
    Best Meet @ Lifts@181:...............Best gym lifts
    Squat...- 403..........................Squat....- 395 w/belt
    Bench...- 303..........................Bench....- 300....Paused in meet - 281
    Deadlift.- 503.....Unofficial 513...Deadlift..- 490
    Total....- 1,203...IPF Class II......All done raw, Touch'n go bench

    "Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly" Robert F. Kennedy

    "A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he gives up"

    "However beautiful the strategy you should occasionally look at the results" John Berardi

    Powerlifting Westside Style

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    who would buy a book written by someone who did body for life? especially someone so small. i could sort of understand body for life, bill phillips pretty big, but advice tends to get worse as its passed down and last i checked bill phillips isnt that great either.

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    Pictures can be real deceiving. Check his stats, his bicep is 13.75 in the after pic, 11.5 before. So he's not that big at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rygar
    Pictures can be real deceiving. Check his stats, his bicep is 13.75 in the after pic, 11.5 before. So he's not that big at all.
    wow, your right I never noticed that before, my bi's are 14" and I am a skinny guy, way smaller then he looks

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    his bicep is 13.75 in the after pic, 11.5 before
    ...damn he must be short as hell.. im 5'6 and i got 2 inches on him

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilankaplan1
    ...damn he must be short as hell.. im 5'6 and i got 2 inches on him
    apparently he is 5 foot 9

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    damn... he did make a pretty big jump

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    Maybe its 14 unflexed, sometimes people measure that way? Just a thought he looks bigger than 14 for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill
    Maybe its 14 unflexed, sometimes people measure that way? Just a thought he looks bigger than 14 for sure.

    I saw that site a year or two ago, and I dont recall his exact ending weight but it was between 180-200lbs. There's no way that his arms are that tiny flexed. Absolutely no way. I'm 5'8 155lbs and have 14 1/2-15in arms and he's a far bigger guy than myself.


    I don't know if I would buy the guy's book but if the dates on the pics are true and thats the transformation he underwent thats amazing. I don't understand how anyone here could be a naysayer saying he's not even that big, blah blah. To be his size and cut is a pretty large feat in itself, also he doesn't stand very tall at 5'9 so its harder to carry weight on his small frame. At 16 weeks he looked even bigger.

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    "If you drink moderately, no more than 2-3 drinks per week, you should be OK, but if you are a heavy drinker, you will never improve your physique."

    Ha.

    Nothing that he has to say can't be found for free here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixmasterNash
    "If you drink moderately, no more than 2-3 drinks per week, you should be OK, but if you are a heavy drinker, you will never improve your physique."

    Ha.

    Nothing that he has to say can't be found for free here.

    Thats the truth of everything, its the internet. ...and if you can't find it legally, you can find it illegally. I don't see why this is an eye opener.


    Any information from a book is going to be posted online at a forum somewhere, or a question is going to be posed to the author on the site, so there's really no need to ever buy a workout book other than to support whoever wrote it. Plus the internet gives you the benefit of constantly updated information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby
    well he said on his site (http://www.skinnyguy.net) that he had been weight trainihg for years and got no results, and that his genetics werent good, and that he did that in 12 weeks, is it just me or is that really amazing or really fake
    I don't think he meant that his genetics were not good, when I read through his site and changed my **** around about 9 months ago, which was when I started gaining weight. The "new" information that I ran into (this was how I came about clicking on the site in the first place; the site said something about guaranteed to help hardgainers get better gains) was eating big to get big. I don't know about the book, but that's what I got out of the site. I wouldn't buy the book anyway, the way the site is put together, it seems like the book would just explain bulking and cutting cycles.
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    hmmm


    i dont care what anyone says... he's a skinny lil dude. yes, he did a great job adding lean mass. a much better job than i have every done. but i am much bigger than him. yes, i'm also much fatter, but bring on the fat with the size... i'd rather be my size with a 35 inch waist than his size with a 31 inch waist. that's what i don't get... some of his training seems cool, but nothing crazy or special.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mic Soloist
    hmmm


    i dont care what anyone says... he's a skinny lil dude. yes, he did a great job adding lean mass. a much better job than i have every done. but i am much bigger than him. yes, i'm also much fatter, but bring on the fat with the size... i'd rather be my size with a 35 inch waist than his size with a 31 inch waist. that's what i don't get... some of his training seems cool, but nothing crazy or special.

    To some the leaner appearance is much more appealing than others. Honestly I would take a 31inch waist over a 35inch waist any day. It will help bring out the T shape and show off all the hard work. You're entitled to your opinion but especially being new, I wouldn't be a huge naysayer. Once you get into things you'll realize just how much harder and more disciplined it is to be 'in shape' and 'lean'. Any idiot can eat and lift to get bigger, thats not difficult...getting lean and remaining lean for extended periods of time is what takes extensive dieting and is really difficult.

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    My friend bought it and let me borrow it. There's alot of good advice to give someone a better understanding about how a hard gainer should work out and why they should etc. It cost him 80 bucks which I think it a total rip off but he's been following the workout and so far is happy with the results but I don't see anything mind blowing about him so far.

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    The workout routine is basically 4 working sets of 6-8, 4-6, 2-4, and 1-2 reps with 1 burn out set immediately following the last heavy set and a super set with for example on a chest day after doing flat bench you would do db flies. IMO it's alot of good information but it's really nothing you can't find out for yourself from this forum or the other ones on the internet.

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