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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Fun With Deadlifting...

    Figured I would start a journal and keep it up for a while, maybe.

    Anyway, I deadlift RAW in the truest sense. I only use hand chalk or wrist straps (for my later sets). No belt, no suit, nothing else.

    I use a hook grip with chalk only for all of my warmups and my first heavy set. This grip (for the uniformed) involves a double overhand grip in which the lifter wraps his thumb using his index and forefinger. It is used primarily by Olympic lifters in because they cannot use a mixed grip or straps when lifting. The hook is a stronger grip than the standard double overhand and weaker than a mixed grip.

    As of late I have taken to performing multiple heavy sets with long breaks of 10 minutes or more between sets. I will update my workout as I go (in between breaks).

    Today:

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    135 x 9
    225 x 6
    315 x 6
    405 x 1
    475 x 1
    525 x 3 --- All sets with a hook grip and chalk.

    My next set will be 525 using wrist straps and a double overhand grip. The hook chews up the base of my thumbs right where they meet the palm. If I do too many sets I will literally tear them.

    525 x 3

    525 x 3 again

    525 x 2 ---didn't want to push to hard and tweak my already slightly unhappy back

    525 x 2

    405 x 6 --- That was all for me for the day.
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    You are one strong guy. I will keep watching this journal. What are some of your short and long term goals?

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    nice pulls chris. did you reset and regrip after each rep on the heavy set or just bang the weights off the floor?

    good to see you journalling again anyway, ought to provide some inspiration for some members here.

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    Chris. nice to see you start a journal. Your achievements over the years have been awe inspiring to say the least.
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    ace pulling chris.. so what are the stats at now a days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by andy51
    You are one strong guy. I will keep watching this journal. What are some of your short and long term goals?

    To pull 700 without a belt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Callahan
    nice pulls chris. did you reset and regrip after each rep on the heavy set or just bang the weights off the floor?

    good to see you journalling again anyway, ought to provide some inspiration for some members here.
    I reset and re-gripped with each rep on the first set with 525. On the other sets I am using straps and thus merely reset in terms of pausing about 1-2 seconds between reps.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lilmase1153
    ace pulling chris.. so what are the stats at now a days?

    I honestly have no clue. I don't have a working scale at home at that is where I train (basement).

    I would guess myself to be 218-220 lbs at 5'11".


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    Good to see you posting a workout.

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    can i get another explanation of the hook grip im just not gettin it?

    ps nice pulls
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    chris as an expeirenced deadlifter like yourself do you consider using straps as equipment?

    reason im asking is im stuck with my deads at a pretty low weight but its not cause of my strength on the movement its simply cause my grip wont allow anymore weight.. and im not so sure about using straps as i dont really like using equipment at all..

    thanks in advance chris and p.s. your beast 5'11 220 is
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    Ok, palms are facing down. Imagine you are doing shrugs and the grip you would take. Now, instead of your thumb being on the outside of your fingers you are covering it with the first 2 fingers on your hand.

    Does that make sense?


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    Quote Originally Posted by lilmase1153
    chris as an expeirenced deadlifter like yourself do you consider using straps as equipment?

    reason im asking is im stuck with my deads at a pretty low weight but its not cause of my strength on the movement its simply cause my grip wont allow anymore weight.. and im not so sure about using straps as i dont really like using equipment at all..

    thanks in advance chris and p.s. your beast 5'11 220 is
    I think at this point you should wait on the straps. Are you using a mixed grip?


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    yeah im using mix...
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    Hmmm, well, then I think you should get yourself some hand chalk. You will see a HUGE difference in what you can hold with it. If you cannot use chalk at your gym then go ahead and use straps but after you have gone as far as you can in your sets without them.


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    thanks chris ive never thought of chalk but ill give it a try.. and i dont know if my gym allows it but i go so late it doesnt really matter :-)
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    Awesome lifting Chris, keep up the good work. 700 without a belt is nuts.
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    Very cool to see you start a journal Chris! I have been hoping you would start one for some time now. Looks like I got my wish.

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    Thanks for the compliments guys.


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    That grip sounds painful as all hell.
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    UH OOHH!!! Mason done started a journal lol. I'm def. gonna have to keep an eye on this. Great pullin' man. I hate to clutter your journal with questions, but I wanted to ask about something you had written awhile back. You stated, that you felt a person could gain good overall size if all they did was squat. Do you really feel this way?? The reason I ask, is because I've screwed up my rotator cuff, so I can't do really any chest, back or shoulder work at all. I still want to blast my legs and whatever else I can get away with, and I really enjoy squatting, so if you really felt that one could still gain some size, that would def. make me feel better for having to take a rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris mason
    I would guess myself to be 218-220 lbs at 5'11".
    You look bigger than that on your pics. We have about the same stats but you are a lot stronger than I. That was some great pullin. I'll be keeping an eye out for that 700 lb DL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubrock
    UH OOHH!!! Mason done started a journal lol. I'm def. gonna have to keep an eye on this. Great pullin' man. I hate to clutter your journal with questions, but I wanted to ask about something you had written awhile back. You stated, that you felt a person could gain good overall size if all they did was squat. Do you really feel this way?? The reason I ask, is because I've screwed up my rotator cuff, so I can't do really any chest, back or shoulder work at all. I still want to blast my legs and whatever else I can get away with, and I really enjoy squatting, so if you really felt that one could still gain some size, that would def. make me feel better for having to take a rest.

    I really do, yes.

    If it will not further injure you shoulder then I think you should squat like crazy!

    Try to squat as often as possible (2-3x per week minimum). Do at least 4-5 working sets (post-warmup sets) and take 5-10 minutes between sets after your first heavy set.

    Work with reps in the 2-6 range and stop short of failure on your heavy sets.

    If you can tolerate milk drink a TON of it while working out. Try to consume at least 1 gallon overall throughout the day.

    If you don't get bigger overall I will be very surprised.

    Now, does that mean when you first try a bench press again you will be just as strong? No, there is a neural component to training, but it does mean that you will quickly regain your strength in upper body movements and then surpass them once you can return to upper body training.


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    Good luck with your goals. Your strength/size gives us natty guys hope!
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    While working out!?!?



    A little confused by this sentence
    "This grip (for the uniformed) involves a double overhand grip in which the lifter wraps his thumb using his index and forefinger."
    but nice to see other people using a double overhand grip. Has really helped my grip strength grow.

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