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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Help With My Own Diagnosis

    Maybe someone could diagnose me

    I know I’m writing a lot, but I am impressed at the knowledge and assistance of many of the members on here and would like to get any feedback I can from you.

    I’ve always known something to be not quite right with me, but never knew what. Ever since I was young I had various nagging physical problems. By any standards I am quite a healthy individual, 27 years old, 230 pounds…strong, athletic…I also box, have gone as many as 15 rounds of fighting in one session, and competed in the golden gloves and won other tournaments…Play basketball, football, etc…but I fight through A LOT of bothersome things and feel like no matter how hard I try I can never be my ultimate best because of them.

    Starting with Osgood-slaughters disease when I was about 13, which I then developed condromalacia patellae in my knees. Because of this it weakened my knees and I dislocated my kneecap twice, once when I was 16, once when I was 23. Visited doctors, who took x-rays and always say it appears that nothing is wrong, and all I need to do strengthen, the muscles around my kneecap but Ive been doing so forever and no improvement.

    Often had problems with focus and concentration starting at a young age, although it seems to have improved a bit up to now.

    This may just be a cause of overworking my legs, but I have some type of tendonitis in my lower legs…any stressful activity on my calves, ie running, jumping, will leave them sore for a week, EVERYTIME. I read about something called compartment syndrome, which seems like a good candidate for my symptoms. I mean when I play ball and get shins splints and lactic acid buildup in my calves right away.

    EXTREME muscle soreness and or D.O.M.S. I can do the same activity day in and day out, week in week out, and ALWAYS be sore as hell the next day. I cant do any demanding activity two days in a row because of it.

    Insomnia and inability to wake up early. Just what it is. Its like waking up from a coma when I have to get up at 7am.

    At times a very low sex drive….being a raving maniac when I see a bangin chic in the street, then when it comes time for the deed my sex drive is not as high as it should be…although I have no problems with getting an erection and keeping one, I often times don't have the physical drive and excitement.

    Fatigue. Sometimes I just have no energy. At time in my head it feels like my blood circulation is lagging, like I’m a bit hazy and my head is heavy. I almost always have to take a nap after a long day if I want to box or have a real good workout.

    I read about testosterone levels (this would explain my low sex drive and energy) but yet, I am a VERY fast gainer, a hairy bastard and can be quite an aggressive machismo at times. So I don’t know if that is the case. But I have been thinking that there may be some hormone issues with the sex drive and energy.

    I am not sure if anyone has any suggestions, of if all my symptoms can be tied in to a specific ailment. Or if anyone can make sense of the info I have given, but if anyone has some ideas that would be a start. Thanks.

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    I suggest going to a registered dietitian and telling him your issues. He will help you get to the route of the problem unlike your typical medical doctor would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waynis
    I suggest going to a registered dietitian and telling him your issues. He will help you get to the route of the problem unlike your typical medical doctor would.
    If you meet a dietician who can tie all that together and cure you, he/she should win the nobel peace prize.

    Either that, or you could start by getting plugged in with a good primary care physician who will spend the time needed with you to get you headed toward the appropriate sub-specialist for an accurate diagnosis (or diagnoses).
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Veins
    Maybe someone could diagnose me

    I know I’m writing a lot, but I am impressed at the knowledge and assistance of many of the members on here and would like to get any feedback I can from you.

    Often had problems with focus and concentration starting at a young age, although it seems to have improved a bit up to now.

    This may just be a cause of overworking my legs, but I have some type of tendonitis in my lower legs…any stressful activity on my calves, ie running, jumping, will leave them sore for a week, EVERYTIME. I read about something called compartment syndrome, which seems like a good candidate for my symptoms. I mean when I play ball and get shins splints and lactic acid buildup in my calves right away.

    EXTREME muscle soreness and or D.O.M.S. I can do the same activity day in and day out, week in week out, and ALWAYS be sore as hell the next day. I cant do any demanding activity two days in a row because of it.

    Insomnia and inability to wake up early. Just what it is. Its like waking up from a coma when I have to get up at 7am.

    At times a very low sex drive….being a raving maniac when I see a bangin chic in the street, then when it comes time for the deed my sex drive is not as high as it should be…although I have no problems with getting an erection and keeping one, I often times don't have the physical drive and excitement.

    Fatigue. Sometimes I just have no energy. At time in my head it feels like my blood circulation is lagging, like I’m a bit hazy and my head is heavy. I almost always have to take a nap after a long day if I want to box or have a real good workout.

    I read about testosterone levels (this would explain my low sex drive and energy) but yet, I am a VERY fast gainer, a hairy bastard and can be quite an aggressive machismo at times. So I don’t know if that is the case. But I have been thinking that there may be some hormone issues with the sex drive and energy.

    I am not sure if anyone has any suggestions, of if all my symptoms can be tied in to a specific ailment. Or if anyone can make sense of the info I have given, but if anyone has some ideas that would be a start. Thanks.
    Have you ever been checked for hypothyroidism? That would be the first place I would start. Lethargy, decreased sex drive and muscle soreness are all symptoms associated with it.
    Last edited by Dirt; 02-03-2005 at 01:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorbrain
    If you meet a dietician who can tie all that together and cure you, he/she should win the nobel peace prize.

    Either that, or you could start by getting plugged in with a good primary care physician who will spend the time needed with you to get you headed toward the appropriate sub-specialist for an accurate diagnosis (or diagnoses).
    IF you live your whole life being misdiagnosed by countless doctors who have only taken your money, wasted your time, ruined your health, what risk do you take in looking at other alternatives? absolultly no risk.
    I'am victim to the most amazing dietitian you will find. He has changed my life. I finally got my problems diagnosed. IT took 21 freaking years and a mere dietitian accuratly diagnosed me. Instead of possibly wasted this guys life away maybe he can also find one that could tell him what's really going on with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waynis
    IF you live your whole life being misdiagnosed by countless doctors who have only taken your money, wasted your time, ruined your health, what risk do you take in looking at other alternatives? absolultly no risk.
    I'am victim to the most amazing dietitian you will find. He has changed my life. I finally got my problems diagnosed. IT took 21 freaking years and a mere dietitian accuratly diagnosed me. Instead of possibly wasted this guys life away maybe he can also find one that could tell him what's really going on with him.
    Couldnt be more true...I have given up on doctors for the exact reason...I have never once been correctly diagnosed in my 27 years of existence...The last straw was when I hurt my back a while back boxing, and it was so painful that i was bed riddent and couldnt walk...Went to FOUR doctors, all of whom aint know their ass from their elbow, and none of whom correctly diagnosed me, or sent me in the right direction...how did i find out what was wrong with me?

    GOOGLE.

    and i diagnosed and cured myself. since then I have not visited a doctor, the internet has become my tool for diagnosing my own symptoms.

    moving on, I will look in to hypothyroidism, thanks for the advice Dirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Veins
    ...the internet has become my tool for diagnosing my own symptoms.
    Fantastic approach. Good luck in your search.
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Veins
    Couldnt be more true...I have given up on doctors for the exact reason...I have never once been correctly diagnosed in my 27 years of existence...The last straw was when I hurt my back a while back boxing, and it was so painful that i was bed riddent and couldnt walk...Went to FOUR doctors, all of whom aint know their ass from their elbow, and none of whom correctly diagnosed me, or sent me in the right direction...how did i find out what was wrong with me?

    GOOGLE.

    and i diagnosed and cured myself. since then I have not visited a doctor, the internet has become my tool for diagnosing my own symptoms.

    Dirt.
    It's sad isn't it. Google helped you more then your doctors. And taking a risk with a natural supplement is a far less risk then start taking medication which don't actually fix the problem. The problem with symptoms is so many problems cause the same symptoms. It's important to understand your symptoms. When they happen. What makes it worse. Break down your diet. What you eat and what you are taking in. Sometimes as simple as it sounds you could be highly deficiant in one mineral, vitamin, amino acid, ext... that can change the whole way you feel.

    If it wasn't for the internet I would not have discovered msm. MSM is doing wonders for me. I thought I might need surgery on my knee but with the help of msm I feel like my knee continues to improve monthly.

    I really recommend finding a respectable dietitian. The reason I am alive today is credited to my diettitian. The man is the most knowledgable person I have ever met. I trust this man with my life. How many doctors can you say that about and mean it.
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    wow waynis, can u tell me more about MSM or link me in the right direction? I too have glass knees, and really need to improve them soon, or i am going for surgery.

    and i swear its said how little help I have gotten from doctors in my life...it is very disheartening, and very tedious for me...only time i can see myself going to a doctor again is if it is the LAST, and i mean LAST resort...

    Referring to the back pain I was talking about, I had Sciatica...I mean it is the only condition with such the specific symptoms that any doctor with any amount of experience should be able to pinpoint...I went to FOUR and none of them had a clue.

    Google searching for about an hour, I realized that was EXACTLY what i had....followed the directions and healed myself in no time.

    Unbelievable.
    Last edited by Ice Veins; 02-04-2005 at 12:20 AM.

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    Honestly, I hate all the doctor bashing that goes on in here. People expect doctors to perform miracles and find out everything that's wrong with them in 15 minutes flat.

    Newsflash, it takes longer than that. It also requires a lot of Dr. Patient interaction. If you want to make the most out of your doctor visit, then become an informed patient. The MD is not psychic. The more info you give him, the better. Also, research your physician. Not all MD's are created equal. I have infinitely more faith in a good physician than I do on the internet or alternative medicine.

    A good...several good MD's have helped me through lots of problems. It took multiple visits and examinations before my problems were pinpointed. The thing is that they were, and I'm better now for it.

    Best of luck with your problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ectx
    People expect doctors to perform miracles and find out everything that's wrong with them in 15 minutes flat......It took multiple visits and examinations before my problems were pinpointed.
    Exactly, that's it in a nutshell. People expect a cure now on many medical conditions that just aren't that simple. In fact, I'd say most medical conditions aren't that simple. Some people get upset when they can't go through their local ER/Doc's office like they go through the McDonald's drive thru and get their magic bullet in 15 minutes. Real life (and the human body) just isn't that trivial.

    I commend the original poster for diagnosing his own sciatica. I had a similar experience in my early twenties.....exact same problem. I went through two MD's before the 3rd made the correct diagnosis of a lower lumbar disk herniation. I certainly don't think the first two physicians were idiots, however. Nor do I go around with a permanent chip on my shoulder about doctors/misdiagnosis/prolonged pain & suffering, etc. Crap happens...they were doing the best they could with the information I was telling them. Even a simple problem such as low back pain really isn't that simple: http://www.clevelandclinicmeded.com/...ain/table1.htm

    Self-education is tremendously important for anyone regarding their medical care and condition(s). The internet is a great tool to obtain further information. A healthy diet and even an occasional consultation with a nutritionist can be invaluable for many people. But none of these replace genuine medical care. There are bad doctors out there. In fact, there are really bad docs out there. But the far majority are well above average and strive to give the best medical care possible.

    Best of luck to the original poster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorbrain
    Exactly, that's it in a nutshell. People expect a cure now on many medical conditions that just aren't that simple. In fact, I'd say most medical conditions aren't that simple. Some people get upset when they can't go through their local ER/Doc's office like they go through the McDonald's drive thru and get their magic bullet in 15 minutes. Real life (and the human body) just isn't that trivial.

    I commend the original poster for diagnosing his own sciatica. I had a similar experience in my early twenties.....exact same problem. I went through two MD's before the 3rd made the correct diagnosis of a lower lumbar disk herniation. I certainly don't think the first two physicians were idiots, however. Nor do I go around with a permanent chip on my shoulder about doctors/misdiagnosis/prolonged pain & suffering, etc. Crap happens...they were doing the best they could with the information I was telling them. Even a simple problem such as low back pain really isn't that simple: http://www.clevelandclinicmeded.com/...ain/table1.htm

    Self-education is tremendously important for anyone regarding their medical care and condition(s). The internet is a great tool to obtain further information. A healthy diet and even an occasional consultation with a nutritionist can be invaluable for many people. But none of these replace genuine medical care. There are bad doctors out there. In fact, there are really bad docs out there. But the far majority are well above average and strive to give the best medical care possible.

    Best of luck to the original poster.
    Appreciate it....but in reference to ectx, I think I may have come across as a doctor basher, but in fact my experiences with doctors have not been on a "drive through" basis like was said, but rather with many appointments and meetings with the same doctors that caused me to lose faith...I totally agree that doctors are not psychics and that it takes equal communication with the patient to help the doctor resolve any issues...Its a hard job diagnosing patients, but only the PATIENT knows exactly how they feel...I think the best thing to use doctors for is not diagnosis, rather TREATMENT and TESTING...I feel that some of the symptoms I have had in the past should have been MAJOR red flags to any knoweldgable doctor....I mean when I hurt my back, I told all the doctors that I felt an electrical type sensation down the back of my hamstrings as well...that is TELL TALE sign of scatica, but not one of the doctors knew that...and these were not 30 year old doctors either, were talking about specialists who have been around for years.

    Everyone has their own experiences, but I think a good doctor should be able to have the undestanding and references to at least basically diagnose a symptom to the best of his ability....through process of elimination, and testing anything should be able to figured out. But unfortunately in my life, I havent had the luxury of being treated and diagnosed correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Veins
    wow waynis, can u tell me more about MSM or link me in the right direction? I too have glass knees, and really need to improve them soon, or i am going for surgery.

    and i swear its said how little help I have gotten from doctors in my life...it is very disheartening, and very tedious for me...only time i can see myself going to a doctor again is if it is the LAST, and i mean LAST resort...

    Referring to the back pain I was talking about, I had Sciatica...I mean it is the only condition with such the specific symptoms that any doctor with any amount of experience should be able to pinpoint...I went to FOUR and none of them had a clue.

    Google searching for about an hour, I realized that was EXACTLY what i had....followed the directions and healed myself in no time.

    Unbelievable.
    link for msm information all you gotta do is google. haha. here's one.

    http://www.msm.com/

    What a lot of people don't know who have lower back problems is some times doing back extensions can totally illiminate that pain. Especially people with herniated disks.

    I'am not saying all doctors are bad cause it's just like saying all girls are sluts. You know there's good ones out there but it's hard finding them If you lived in my shoes you might think diffrently.
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