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    I here a lot about overtraining. In 1970 I took a construction job that required workers to climb 30" ladders. Each day I climbed over a mile high by ends day. I weighed 183 lbs when I started that job and left it a year later to go back to school. When i quit that job i weighed 194 lbs. Here's what happened though. My thighs ended up measuring 29 1/2" when i left that job causing me to have to have all my pants altered. How come my thighs grew so large. Why weren't they overtrained from using them 5 days a week, preventing them from getting that big.

    Now do you think I believe in overtraining?
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    I just realized that that was a monster truck in your avatar. Please telll me it's yours and that I can drive it.
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    Pops, I believe there IS a gremlin known as overtraining. I have felt beat down and sore and just took a couple days off and slept and gained 6 lbs. (This just happened actually).
    Now when I was in high school I rode bicycles on a professional level. and grew up riding BMX's. I had over 18inch calves. I rode EVERYDAY. I believe your body has to adapt to be able to survive. and given time growth can happen, just not as optimally as if you were to take the appropriate time off.
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    I wish that was my truck. It's my brothers with my wife standing there. Linda is only 4'11" tall
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    Quote Originally Posted by POPS
    I here a lot about overtraining. In 1970 I took a construction job that required workers to climb 30" ladders. Each day I climbed over a mile high by ends day. I weighed 183 lbs when I started that job and left it a year later to go back to school. When i quit that job i weighed 194 lbs. Here's what happened though. My thighs ended up measuring 29 1/2" when i left that job causing me to have to have all my pants altered. How come my thighs grew so large. Why weren't they overtrained from using them 5 days a week, preventing them from getting that big.

    Now do you think I believe in overtraining?
    The thing is though you were not working your legs to failure, so you could get away with all of the volume. If you went to failure climbing a 30' ladder you would not be posting this now lol
    Its sorta like olympic lifters. The train 5+times a week, and don't over train. They use a low % of there 1RM though.
    Also, were you working out besides the job?
    if you werent that would leave all of your 'recovery juice' to go to the legs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam MacKinnon
    The thing is though you were not working your legs to failure, so you could get away with all of the volume. If you went to failure climbing a 30' ladder you would not be posting this now lol
    Its sorta like olympic lifters. The train 5+times a week, and don't over train. They use a low % of there 1RM though.
    Also, were you working out besides the job?
    if you werent that would leave all of your 'recovery juice' to go to the legs.
    Exactly.

    using legs every day is different from abusing them every day. Walking up a ladder is tiring, but it's far from targeting specific muscles.

    Relating to high volume training, it's just a very inefficient way to get the same or less results. I had chicken legs when I first started working out and did 5 exercises, 4-5 sets each for a long time. My legs didn't really start growing until I cut it back to 3-4 exercises, 2-3 sets each. My legs were pushing 30" too, before long. It was a more efficient way to get the same or better results.

    More than anything, the feeling that one needs to train something more frequently with more volume is ALL MENTAL.
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    i think there is a slow twich vs. fast twich muscle argument there too.

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    Dude, your brother has a monster truck. When can I come over?
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    Your legs are made to be worked every day, as long as it's not to failure like Adam said. You can't do hardly anything without working your legs at least a little.
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