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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Strange problem with all overhead shoulder presses.

    All overhead shoulder pressing I do, whether it's with dumbbells or a bar, instead of feeling it in my shoulders, I feel it in my lats.

    After doing 4 sets of seated dumbbell presses, it feels more like I just did 4 sets of pull ups. I've been working out for years and never had this problem until about 2 months ago. The day after shoulder day, my lats feel as though I did my back workout the day before. That's not even an exaggeration. My lats are just as sore after shoulder day as they are after back day. It's weird as hell. It's like I'm using my lats to do the exercise instead of my shoulders.

    The first cause that comes to my mind is the fact that I'm just now starting to do real direct shoulder work again after about 4 months of practically no real overhead pressing... due to some sort of shoulder injury. So, it was basically 4 months without doing any real overhead pressing. I continued to do all other workouts with no problem, so it's almost like my body just forgot how to use the shoulders to do things, and instead uses the lats.

    Overhead presses are basically a reversed version of pull ups, and it's like my body now automatically uses my lats for anything done in this position. It's annoying the hell out of me.

    My form looks perfect. I'm doing everything the way I've always done it. I'm doing 8-10 reps each set, and I'm not struggling.

    Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas on what my problem is, or better yet, how I can fix it? It's driving me crazy.

    Thanks in advance.
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    Boy don't have an answere to that. It should work the entire deltoid muscle along with the Tri's....BUMP
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    i could understand lat work of your flexing while you lift, but to take the load away from shoulders... i cant explain that

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    you're squeezing your lats while trying to keep your trunk straight.

    Unless your muscles have learned to push instead of just pulling.

    kd

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    Ke?po eh?


    How is the shoulder feeling?

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    yup,

    I get some kenpo, bjj, karate, judo, aikido, some bojitsu, some lissajou do ryu, lots of escrima. Recently got into spetznaz-esque knife fighting, which, oddly enough carries a bit of sambo with it. Luckily my instructors are willing to stay one step ahead of me. The head instructor is 3rd generation Kenpo.
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    I use to feel this in my lats, but after gaining some weight and increasing the size/strength of my core muscles I no longer feel this strain and I find it much easier to do overhead presses.
    6'2 206

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenpoDude
    yup,

    I get some kenpo, bjj, karate, judo, aikido, some bojitsu, some lissajou do ryu, lots of escrima. Recently got into spetznaz-esque knife fighting, which, oddly enough carries a bit of sambo with it. Luckily my instructors are willing to stay one step ahead of me. The head instructor is 3rd generation Kenpo.
    Intersting. Got a website of your school?
    Do I know you from any other MA forums?

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