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    Mark Helprin

    I realize that this is a shot in the dark, so to speak -- of all the authors who could possibly be considered germane to our hobby, our cult, our obsession (whatever the case may, in your case, be), Mark Helprin is quite likely the least relevant -- but has anyone here read Winter's Tale?

    Never before have I encountered such sublimity, such inevitabilty, such sheer, unadulterated beauty. It is as if the novel as written predated its writing, as if it existed in sempiternal perfection, Platonically-penned, and was not conceived of by man at all but rather was merely transcribed into transient corporeality. Every word fits; every sentence, every paragraph, coheres. It is a portrait in which every brush-stroke is the necessary consequence of its predecessor, a symphony in which each syllable is defined with utter certainty by the one before. It exists as an ideal -- it could not be other than it is.

    Please. Buy it. Read it. Submerge yourself in its depths. You'll be glad you did.


    Edit by Galileo : Helping out our members with average diction.
    Last edited by galileo; 02-22-2005 at 05:22 AM.
    "human kind/
    Cannot bear very much reality/
    Time past and time future/
    What might have been and what has been / Point to one end, which is always present."

    -T.S. Eliot. "Four Quartets."

    "Redistribution [of wealth] is in effect far less a redistribution of free income from the richer to the poorer, as we [had] imagined, than a redistribution of power from the individual to the State."
    -Jouvenal

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    hE DUN wrote some gud stoories?

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    So does dat mean it's good, or whut?!
    "The only sin which we never forgive in each other is difference of opinion."
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    What were you smoking when you read it?
    (Just joking, by the way)

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    Heh. Should have expected this sort of response

    Seriously, though, has anyone here read him? If you haven't, you should. Hell, if I had the money to spare, I'd buy you a copy -- I feel that strongly. He needs to be read.
    "human kind/
    Cannot bear very much reality/
    Time past and time future/
    What might have been and what has been / Point to one end, which is always present."

    -T.S. Eliot. "Four Quartets."

    "Redistribution [of wealth] is in effect far less a redistribution of free income from the richer to the poorer, as we [had] imagined, than a redistribution of power from the individual to the State."
    -Jouvenal

    Fear me, I am the bandersnatch.
    -Paul Stagg

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    Quote Originally Posted by _-_v_-_
    Heh. Should have expected this sort of response

    Seriously, though, has anyone here read him? If you haven't, you should. Hell, if I had the money to spare, I'd buy you a copy -- I feel that strongly. He needs to be read.
    What's the story about?
    "It is often said, mainly by the "no-contests", that although there is no positive evidence for the existence of God, nor is there evidence against his existence. So it is best to keep an open mind and be agnostic. At first sight that seems an unassailable position, at least in the weak sense of Pascal's wager. But on second thought it seems a cop-out, because the same could be said of Father Christmas and tooth fairies. There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?"

    Richard Dawkins


    "Out of all of the sects in the world, we notice an uncanny coincidence: the overwhelming majority just happen to choose the one that their parents belong to. Not the sect that has the best evidence in its favour, the best miracles, the best moral code, the best cathedral, the best stained glass, the best music: when it comes to choosing from the smorgasbord of available religions, their potential virtues seem to count for nothing, compared to the matter of heredity. This is an unmistakable fact; nobody could seriously deny it. Yet people with full knowledge of the arbitrary nature of this heredity, somehow manage to go on believing in their religion, often with such fanaticism that they are prepared to murder people who follow a different one."


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    What's the story about?
    It's difficult to say.

    That may sound like a bit of a cop-out, to be sure -- but, really, it's as honest an answer as I think that I can give.

    It encompasses generations, fixes time and space into tapestry of seamless unity. Never before have I read something so alive with such abiding love for humanity.
    "human kind/
    Cannot bear very much reality/
    Time past and time future/
    What might have been and what has been / Point to one end, which is always present."

    -T.S. Eliot. "Four Quartets."

    "Redistribution [of wealth] is in effect far less a redistribution of free income from the richer to the poorer, as we [had] imagined, than a redistribution of power from the individual to the State."
    -Jouvenal

    Fear me, I am the bandersnatch.
    -Paul Stagg

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    Quote Originally Posted by _-_v_-_
    It's difficult to say.

    That may sound like a bit of a cop-out, to be sure -- but, really, it's as honest an answer as I think that I can give.

    It encompasses generations, fixes time and space into tapestry of seamless unity. Never before have I read something so alive with such abiding love for humanity.
    Nothing to get a bunch of meatheads drooling like humanistic magical reality!

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    In all seriousness though, you have me intrigued. I'll check him out next time I go to the library.

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    This guy's contreversial in most literary circles... I hope to go off to NYU, perhaps for some sort of literary focus in my degree, and I've started reading more.. I'm unsure of what words to use.. authors.

    Everyone seems to either think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, or a great writer but a total jerk who deserves no fanbase.
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    I've heard that A Soldier of the Great War is brilliant as well, though I haven't read it.

    Actually, it's my understanding that ALL of his works are of commensurate quality -- so take your pick.


    Edit by Galileo: I'm just trying to make it easier for everyone to talk to you.
    Last edited by galileo; 02-22-2005 at 05:19 AM.
    "human kind/
    Cannot bear very much reality/
    Time past and time future/
    What might have been and what has been / Point to one end, which is always present."

    -T.S. Eliot. "Four Quartets."

    "Redistribution [of wealth] is in effect far less a redistribution of free income from the richer to the poorer, as we [had] imagined, than a redistribution of power from the individual to the State."
    -Jouvenal

    Fear me, I am the bandersnatch.
    -Paul Stagg

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    I knew I'd seen his name somewhere. I started reading A Soldier of the Great War a couple of years ago, and I couldn't get into it.

    Not that I tried very hard - I gave up after about twenty pages.
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    I think there was a bugvirus in the interweb that made this thread land on the wrong site.


    lol @ the dictionary links.

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    Thanks Gal, I needed that
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