for those of you whove read my other posts on tendonitis i know its starting to get annoying. im sorry.
by now ive had tendonitis in my shoulder/elbows for six months and i havent been to the gym since. ive tried acupuncture, patches, creams, pills, etc. nothing worked.
i finally got approval for ONE measly session yesterday for physical therapy. the therapist told me i have to gradually work back up. he says i dont have chronic tendonitis because i have full range of motion. so he just gave me some different ways to do some workouts. i did it for a very short time using one pounders. today i wake up and my elbows and shoulders are in pain. i cant do any shoulder workouts without sensing pain in the upper front shoulder joints. and my elbows hurt when i fully bend them.
what now? i seriously have lost all hope. i am beginning to regret ever starting to work out. im going back to the doctor soon but hes really stupid. the last time i went he tried to give me ibuprofen. i told him that **** doesnt work. he asked me what i wanted. well... i want my tendonitis gone. thats why i came to you. what do they pay you for? anyway i just asked for physical therapy. now that physical therapy didnt work i have to go back to the doctor. and he will probably ask me what i want again. so what do i ask for now? massage therapy? ultrasound therapy? plz help me. im desperate.
ps: when i tell this to my friends all they say is "just rest man." im like "ive been doing that for six months. look where its got me." im in worse condition than when i stopped working out. i regret stopping. it didnt hurt anywhere near this much when i was lifting. maybe i need to ask for mri or something.
Last edited by T_Chapman; 02-26-2005 at 03:28 PM.
Everyone who lifts long enough will have some type of injury if you ask me. Some have more than others. I've seriously hurt both my wrists (ligaments) and really messed up a muscle under the shoulder blade which has been hurting/bothering me in my workouts for 3 years now. I stopped for almost a full year to try and see if that would help heal it, didn't help one bit. went to see specialist, physiotherapists, etc... all of them said that it could most likelly never heal.. as it could suddenly heal... so I've decided to just endure the pain and workout anyway.
Now I endure pain in the tricep and bicep tendons... I know better now, I just endure the pain. I figure the tendons have 2 choices. 1) get stronger 2) rip off the bone
I think the best thing when you injure yourself is not to stop completely but rather work around the injury.
one thing that will help is using high rep, extensive warm ups
treat with aspirin or other nsaid.
use ice to reduce swelling.
some tendonitis takes a year or more to recover from
also, use things like "icy hot" or "ben gay"
There really isnt a cure for Tendonitis, im gonna have to side with your doc on this one.....asking him to cure you would be like Magic Johnson demanding his doctor get rid of his HIV infection. For now it aint gonna happen. Id get a prescription Ibuprofen or just double up on the OTC stuff, it works for me. Working around it is good, unless its in a spot that effects too many lifts. Like the shoulder...practically your whole upper body routine will be shot. In that case i would just make sure you warm up the area really well before going heavy. I notice that once i have my "pump" i dont have as many problems. Some people get that pump sooner than others, i get it after my first set on every muscle group except legs...so it doesnt take long for me. My partner though has to do 2+ sets of warmups before his muscles are engorged. might have something to do with vascualrity. Rambling now...im done.
Last edited by shansen008; 02-27-2005 at 05:40 PM.
If it's really bothering you, go see an ortho doc. He'll probably do x-rays and an MRI, but you should request a cortisone shot. Then take it easy for 4-5 weeks.
If you indeed have tendonititis you've been going about this all wrong. Get into to see a orthopedist (like einstein1 said).
If you've got tendonitis,the ortho can make the diagnosis and treament. Anti inflammatories sometimes work well,other times you'll have to go the full cortisone route. Cortisone is a last ditch effort these days and if it doesn't work you're looking at corrective surgery. But that's out of my league. Get it looked at by an orthopedic specialist. Good luck and heal up quick!
thx for the suggestion. my doc prescribed me a combo of ibuprofen and some other drugs. he said to come back in a week and if it hasnt gotten better he said hell refer me to an orthopedic surgeon.Originally Posted by Wikked1
i dont think ill do cortisone. its known to merely relieve pain and some studies show that cortisone actually impede the repair process of the tendons. as for surgery man it would suck if i had to do surgery. thats what im fearing right now.
yeah i know. but after i completely quit lifting my tendonitis just got worse. before i would be able to at least do bench press with a very long warmup. i just couldnt do isolation tricep work. now i cant even bench 1 pound for 10 reps without starting to feel tugging at my elbow tendons and pain on my shoulders.Originally Posted by shansen008
its just that everyone was saying "take time off" "you need to rest" "blah blah blah". im sure that technique worked for them but for me "rest" has truly screwed me up the rear. in all honesty this isnt rest for me. its unrest. lifting composed of much of my life. no matter how crappy my day was i would be happy just knowing i had a good day at the gym. i just cant imagine it if i had to go on with life without lifting ever again.
Last edited by T_Chapman; 02-28-2005 at 08:55 PM.
soothing words thx. but i get really jealous of people who train really intensely but nothing ever wrong happens to them. its so unfair. i started lifting with three friends. two of them quit after two weeks. the other one is on and off. now hes even bigger than me.Originally Posted by Frankster
i used to do it in the beginning but to no avail. thx though.Originally Posted by the doc
I can imagine how bad that must be dude, i had a damaged tricep tendon and couldnt bench for a while.. But i kept on squatting & anything else i could do wihtout pain (neutral grip chins, lateral raises etc).. Are you still doing stuff like that?? I got quite into squats as a result, rather than suffering them
Anyway i hope it works out for you, and it is kinda unfair you got clobbered :/
i would suggest ultra sound, hot cold therapy, maybe microcurrent, low level laser therapy, myofascial release, and graston. Which are just as good according to the research. If i had to chose one i would probably go with the Graston. It has been shown to break up adhesions and strip out muscle and increase lymphatic flow. It is painful, 6/10 ten being the worse pain imaginable. I have seen good results with medial and lateral epicondylitis which is similar to your problem. Your orthopedist may use it now of it, if not try a chiropractor. hopefully, one who specializes in extremities.
kinda unfair? it was totally unfair.Originally Posted by ZebraShu
i just took complete time off because everyone including this board was telling me i needed it. im going to try doing some light stuff at the gym on monday. the worst part is starting all over.
Last edited by T_Chapman; 03-04-2005 at 10:35 PM.
huh? are you sure its helping you if its that helpful? id be willing to do anything even if the pain is 10/10 as long as it helps me.Originally Posted by TylerDurden
thx for the suggestions.
I too would appreciate more info on Graston and any
experience others have had with it.
It might be worth seeing another doctor/physical therapist. Chronic tendonitis is not something you want to keep "working through." Like the doc said, sometimes it can take up to a year or more to subside and you may have to face that. Think about the short-term sacrifice versus the long-term effects though. I know someone who didn't treat their chronic tendonitis and ended up with severe permanent scar tissue and a joint that will never be 100% again...I think I would have opted for the rest rather than being crippled. Sometimes that's the only thing that helps, although there are therapies that can augment the rest.
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I'am a tendonitis sufferer who has almost illiminated it. Tendinitis is like herpes.. it always feels like even when it's better it don't go away. But I think you can illiminate it.. just like some people think there's a cure to herpes. You gotta start taking some sort of anti-inflamattory to calm the inflammation. I take 1500mg of quercitin and bromilien. They have strong anti-inflammatory properties and they won't have the side effects drugs do. Also MSM.. that stuff does wonders but you must take atleast 5,000mg a day.
After you get the supplementation going this is how you get rid of the tendinitis. Certain exercises will make it worse.. Avoid them for now but it doesn't mean you have to stop working out all together. I believe this will have no good effect on your recovery. As others mentioned you want to get a good warm up.. Losen yourself up really good by running or low impact eliptical. Stretch.. YOu must get flexible. Then start working out with bands. BANDS are a must on the road to recovery. low impact but building strength at the same time. HOPE this works for you. Worked for me! but it's going to take time.. unfortunatly, but don't give up.. it will be worth the time.
Last edited by waynis; 04-05-2005 at 02:08 PM.
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