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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Fatass Powerlifter tholian8's Avatar
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    As long as it takes!

    Welcome to my power training and sometime diet journal!

    Background: 39 y.o. female (but not for long, I hit the big 40 in July). 5'2" and currently 90.5 kg although I have been up as high as 104.5 kg, which should not ever be allowed in a woman my height. tuttut I'm an American expat, originally from northern New Jersey but living in NW London for the last 3 years. I'm sure as things progress here, the reasons why I moved will eventually come out.

    I've been lifting weights since 1987, and I've always been more interested in how much weight I could lift rather than in how I looked, but I do have a certain amount of vanity--that is to say, I won't allow myself to become a total farking fatass. I have been one before, and I can't face the mirror when that happens.

    Currently, in the gym, my raw maxes are: Bench 64 kg, Squat 92.5 kg, DL 105 kg. I had quite a bit more in me on the squat max day but I had to quit for lack of spotters.

    Just joined a PL gym with all appropriate equipment and am looking forward to making gains there. I've been training Westside style for 2 weeks and I've already close-gripped 62.5 kg, which is light-years beyond my previous CG max. Haven't tested my "normal" grip yet but am looking forward to it!

    This is the chronicle of my attempts to increase my strength as much as possible while dropping weight classes in a controlled and sensible manner. I'm not sure yet of the best strategy--perhaps a "bulking" and "cutting" style will be suitable for me, perhaps not--but I'm open to suggestions.

    My first goal is to drop from SHW to reliably below 90 kg. That shouldn't take too long but even with this small amount of fat to lose, I'm going to have to do some cardio and be really disciplined about diet. I have a very stubborn body that likes to hold on to the fat.

    For the lifts, I have a "natural" deadline coming because I'm leaving to visit my family in the US at the end of March. By that time, I'd like to be benching 68 kg and squatting 100, both raw. I'm in the process of changing my deadlift style so I'm not sure what I want to see there. I'll have to play it by ear--or maybe someone more experienced has some advice for going from sumo to conventional?

    Training Today

    ...consisted of one hour's fast paced walk in the park around the corner from my house (with music blasting in my ears, otherwise I could not endure the hellish boredom). Tomorrow is my day off, then Westside training will resume with max effort squat day on Tuesday.

    Macros Today

    Calories: 1951
    Protein: 182.2
    Carbs: 127.6
    Fat: 56.5

    across 3 meals and 3 snacks.

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    Good luck...

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    To go from sumo to conventional you're going to have to strengthen your erectors a lot more.

    Sumo is all about the leg drive, and conventional takes some of that out.

    Work on Romanian deadlifts or Dimel deadlifts with a conventional stance. Also hyperextensions, reverse hypers, and pull-throughs as some assistance choices.
    Be a man. Be awesome at it. Be proud of it. Beyond the Barbell

    "Borris is correct. That sounds logical if you ask me."
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    Thanks, I'll adjust my program to hit the erectors more. I've got a workout planned for tomorrow and will report back.

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    ME Squat/DL Day

    Low Box Squat


    warmup: 4 x 20,5 x 42.5 (44, 93.6 lbs)

    5 x 52.5 (115.7 lbs)
    3 x 62.5 (137.7 lbs)
    3 x 72.5 (159.8 lbs)
    3 x 77.5 (170.8 lbs)
    --put on belt--
    1 x 82.5 (181.8 lbs)
    1 x 87.5 (192.9 lbs)
    1 x 92.5 tied my free-squat PR (203.9 lbs) bad form coming off the box, leaned forward and turned it into a bit of a good morning, but I got it up.


    Romanian Deadlift

    w/u: 4 x 20 (44 lbs)

    8 x 60 (132.2 lbs)
    4 x 70 (154.3 lbs) grip gave out
    5 x 70 straps
    5 x 80 (176.3 lbs) straps
    4 x 90 (198.4 lbs) straps


    Wide Parallel-Grip Lat Pulldown

    w/u: 5 x 35 (77 lbs)

    8 x 50 (110 lbs)
    8 x 50
    8 x 50
    6 x 50 grip gave up again, back could have done it


    Cable Crunch

    15 x 9 (19.8 lbs)
    --switched cables--
    12 x 50 (110 lbs) ah, that's better
    10 x 55 (121 lbs)

    NOTES

    Next time I'll set up inside the power cage in case I need to dump the bar. I really wanted to try 95 kg but was conscious that I might miss it and there was just nowhere to dump it off the way I was set up--and, admittedly, I was tired and too farking lazy to fix it right then. So, knowing myself, I'll just remove laziness as an excuse by setting up properly next time.

    I don't like using straps but I want to hit glutes, hams and erectors really hard with RDL's and the grip is the limiting factor. I don't use straps for any other pulling.
    Last edited by tholian8; 03-01-2005 at 07:36 AM.

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    Other news...there is a PL competition in September that I'm going to shoot for. There is actually one at the beginning of April too, but I'll be in the States during that one. Damn.

    So I now have a fire under my ass to get my form right, my lifts up and my weight down in the next six months.

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    welcome to journal land...nice strength you got going on

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    You RDL'ed more than me the other day...that cannot be allowed...so off I went to the gym today vowing to beat it.

    So thank you for inspiring a great workout for me today. Box squat of 92.5 and RDL of 90 x 5, 203 and 198 lbs respectively.
    Your welcome. But, you know this means war.

    I`m scheduled for RDLs on Saturday. And for conventionals tomorrow. We'll see who gets to be queen of this pond. Heh heh.
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    Women who look at men like chests and biceps. Women who touch men like asses. Start squatting.

    "It`s not a grudge. I just don`t like you." - my friend Scott.

    "Dude, yer beyond a tool. Yer the whole damn shed."
    -me

    Stats:
    Female, 5'0, 127ish lbs (this is a damn lie...closer to 133.)
    Current Max Lifts:
    Deadlift- 245 x 1
    RDL - 185 x 5 x 5
    Squat - 155 x 3
    Bench - 105 x 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by tholian8
    I have a very stubborn body that likes to hold on to the fat.
    .... sounds very familiar!


    Great journal you got in here gal. Goodluck with all your goals!!
    'No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.'
    - Eleanor Roosevelt

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    oh and btw, i love the fact that you use kilograms in here!!




    that is all.
    'No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.'
    - Eleanor Roosevelt

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    Dietary Discretions of the Day, 1 March

    B: Coffee w/Half Cream (equivalent to half-and-half in the US); Protein shake
    Pre-WO: 45g carb "bump" with Viper carb drink
    PWO: Protein shake--I don't normally take carbs in PWO because I'm insulin resistant and PWO carbs tend to make me hold on to bodyfat
    S: Tuna salad made with extra-lite mayo and yogurt
    D: Lemony Cod over Spinach/Garbanzo Bean Sauté

    ...and, I must admit, a few Lamb's Navy Rum & tonics, because my partner's ADD was driving me farking nuts today. I shouldn't have, but I didn't blow out my calories either.

    macros

    Calories: 2143
    Protein: 164.1
    Carb: 137.3
    Fat: 40.9

    ...across 5 meals and several drinks.
    "The female of the species is more deadly than the male."

    My attempts at lifting heavy objects

    Current maxes:

    Squat 145 kg (320 lbs)
    Bench 67.5 kg (149 lbs)
    DL: 142.5 kg (314 lbs)

    ...oh, and I'm a girl.

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    Dietary (in)Discretions of the Day, 2 March

    menu

    B: Pre-walk coffee w/Half Cream
    S: Protein Shake
    L: Chili Beef Wrap
    S: Tzatziki Chicken Wrap; Grande Latte from Starbucks
    D: Boeuf Bourgignon, crock pot version which I had set up before leaving for the opera house. (I suppose I should explain that--my other half is an opera singer. I'm a musician also, but I am not in this particular opera. ) Most of a baked potato, with a little butter. Also had a couple glasses of light red wine with dinner, which put calories over the top. Shame on me, I should have either not had the latte or not had the wine.

    macros

    Calories: 2227
    Protein: 163.7
    Carbs: 169.6
    Fat: 59.3

    Training Today consisted of a 40 minute fast paced walk, after coffee but before eating.
    Last edited by tholian8; 03-02-2005 at 03:29 PM.
    "The female of the species is more deadly than the male."

    My attempts at lifting heavy objects

    Current maxes:

    Squat 145 kg (320 lbs)
    Bench 67.5 kg (149 lbs)
    DL: 142.5 kg (314 lbs)

    ...oh, and I'm a girl.

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    Hey there!

    In the spirit of competition, I tried a 1rm today on deads. 225lbs.

    You still whoop me on squats though.

    -j
    Women who look at men like chests and biceps. Women who touch men like asses. Start squatting.

    "It`s not a grudge. I just don`t like you." - my friend Scott.

    "Dude, yer beyond a tool. Yer the whole damn shed."
    -me

    Stats:
    Female, 5'0, 127ish lbs (this is a damn lie...closer to 133.)
    Current Max Lifts:
    Deadlift- 245 x 1
    RDL - 185 x 5 x 5
    Squat - 155 x 3
    Bench - 105 x 2

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    your lifts are impressive..makes me want to hit it harder so you dont catch me

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    mrelwood: Thanks. <blush>

    neartaigh: Now you ARE getting close; don't know if I'll be able to beat you now that I'm trying to change DL styles.

    Today is an official Crap Day. I made the mistake of having coffee at 5 PM yesterday--stupid!

    Was up till all hours, slept badly when I finally did get to sleep, and woke up about noon today. ME Bench workout must be postponed till tomorrow. The way I'm feeling, I probably won't even get my walk in but I am still holding out hope that I'll feel a bit less "wrong" in a couple of hours. My body clock is all screwed up.
    "The female of the species is more deadly than the male."

    My attempts at lifting heavy objects

    Current maxes:

    Squat 145 kg (320 lbs)
    Bench 67.5 kg (149 lbs)
    DL: 142.5 kg (314 lbs)

    ...oh, and I'm a girl.

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    Dietary Discretions of the Day, 3 March

    Training

    45 min. fast paced walk in park. Was going to do ME Bench today but there was just no way, so I'll have to do it tomorrow.

    menu

    B: Coffee w/Half Cream
    L: Seafood Sauté over Fusilli
    D: Pan-Seared Salmon with Soy/Honey/Mustard sauce; steamed broccoli; brown rice
    Snacks: Ryvita crackers w/natty PB

    Don't really know what the macros are today because I was a complete and utter lazy arse and didn't bother to write stuff down. I'm guessing ~2000 cals, probably not enough protein and too much fat since I had the brilliant idea of eating a bunch of Ryvitas and PB this afternoon.


    Took 3g Melatonin because damn it, I intend to be asleep by 11 tonight.
    "The female of the species is more deadly than the male."

    My attempts at lifting heavy objects

    Current maxes:

    Squat 145 kg (320 lbs)
    Bench 67.5 kg (149 lbs)
    DL: 142.5 kg (314 lbs)

    ...oh, and I'm a girl.

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    You should just get used to having coffee all throughout the day. I can drink a cup at 9pm and be asleep at 11 if I want, but I drink 2-3 cups througout the day. Of course, I could pretty much sleep anytime I want I guess ...

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    ME Bench

    Close-Grip Bench

    w/u: 8 x 20, 5 x 40 (44/88 lbs)

    3 x 50 (110 lbs)
    3 x 55 (121 lbs)
    3 x 57.5 fell apart with close grip, lost it over my head, changed to reg. grip for 1-rep maxes
    1 x 57.5 (126.8 lbs)
    1 x 60 (132.2 lbs)
    1 x 62.5 (137.8 lbs)
    1 x 65 PR (143.3 lbs) spotter touched bar at sticking point but did not assist

    Skull Crushers w/Tricep Blaster Bar

    w/u: 5 x 10 kg bar (22 lbs)

    10 x 22.5 (49.6 lbs)
    8 x 25 (55 lbs)
    8 x 25
    2 x 27.5 (60.6 lbs)
    8 x 25


    Medium Parallel-Grip Lat Pulldown

    w/u: 5 x 30 (66 lbs)

    8 x 50, 8 x 50 (110 lbs)


    At this point I gave up. With a cold coming on I was a bit weak and I just don't want to push things--remembering being flat on my back for six weeks last year because I refused to stop training when I was getting sick. I got a really hideous bronchitis and I still have a few breathing problems because of it.

    NOTES

    I need wrist wraps.

    Also, I would have done seated cable row except for the fact that some giant person apparently put a crapload of plates on the stack and SNAPPED the cable. Impressive. :o
    Last edited by tholian8; 03-04-2005 at 08:32 AM.
    "The female of the species is more deadly than the male."

    My attempts at lifting heavy objects

    Current maxes:

    Squat 145 kg (320 lbs)
    Bench 67.5 kg (149 lbs)
    DL: 142.5 kg (314 lbs)

    ...oh, and I'm a girl.

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    Dietary Discretions of the Day, 4 March

    B: Coffee w/Half Cream; Quick Tuna Pasta
    S: Post-WO protein shake
    L: Sautéed Shrimp Diablo (known as "Thing" in our house)
    D: Lasagna; Green Salad with Balsamic Vinegar and Bacon

    Not sure of macros--although the lasagna was homemade, I made it for a party and neglected to keep track of the ingredients.

    I'll see how this cold progresses (or FLEES) and will plan my cardio for the weekend accordingly.
    "The female of the species is more deadly than the male."

    My attempts at lifting heavy objects

    Current maxes:

    Squat 145 kg (320 lbs)
    Bench 67.5 kg (149 lbs)
    DL: 142.5 kg (314 lbs)

    ...oh, and I'm a girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tholian8
    Close-Grip Bench

    w/u: 8 x 20, 5 x 40 (44/88 lbs)

    3 x 50 (110 lbs)
    3 x 55 (121 lbs)
    3 x 57.5 fell apart with close grip, lost it over my head, changed to reg. grip for 1-rep maxes
    1 x 57.5 (126.8 lbs)
    1 x 60 (132.2 lbs)
    1 x 62.5 (137.8 lbs)
    1 x 65 PR (143.3 lbs) spotter touched bar at sticking point but did not assist

    Skull Crushers w/Tricep Blaster Bar

    w/u: 5 x 10 kg bar (22 lbs)

    10 x 22.5 (49.6 lbs)
    8 x 25 (55 lbs)
    8 x 25
    2 x 27.5 (60.6 lbs)
    8 x 25


    Medium Parallel-Grip Lat Pulldown

    w/u: 5 x 30 (66 lbs)

    8 x 50, 8 x 50 (110 lbs)


    At this point I gave up. With a cold coming on I was a bit weak and I just don't want to push things--remembering being flat on my back for six weeks last year because I refused to stop training when I was getting sick. I got a really hideous bronchitis and I still have a few breathing problems because of it.

    NOTES

    I need wrist wraps.

    Also, I would have done seated cable row except for the fact that some giant person apparently put a crapload of plates on the stack and SNAPPED the cable. Impressive. :o

    Those close grips are sick. I've only been doing close grips about a month but I bet my 1rm is only around 130lbs. You're right with me on skulls as well..I gotta do like Emeril and kick it up a notch!
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    blecch

    Still have the annoying cold. No training today. I hate it when I can't train, but no good will come of trying to tough it out--I'll just get sicker later.

    <sigh>
    "The female of the species is more deadly than the male."

    My attempts at lifting heavy objects

    Current maxes:

    Squat 145 kg (320 lbs)
    Bench 67.5 kg (149 lbs)
    DL: 142.5 kg (314 lbs)

    ...oh, and I'm a girl.

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    complete and utter dietary indescretions of today

    Was ravenous all day long, and just sort of gave up.

    ~woke up very late owing to partner's opera premiere last night, late-night kebab (another dietary sin for which I am sure I will soon atone) and general party atmosphere~

    B: Coffee w/Half Cream/Fusilli w/Sun-dried Tomatoes and Parmesan Cheese
    L: Natty PB on Ryvita "Breaks" Cracker (sweetened with currants and brown sugar, those particular Ryvitas)
    D: (surprise goin' out with hard-to-pin-down friend!) Pan-Fried Cod over Potatoes in Garlic-Cream Sauce; small mixed salad w/oil and vinegar dressing; half slice of chocolate torte with whipped Double Cream (Double Cream is a UK delight, nothing they have in North America compares to the sheer fatty pleasure of this stuff). One glass white wine.

    Funnily enough, conversation included my idea about losing 20 lbs in the next six months. Off to a rather inauspicious start, I think.....
    "The female of the species is more deadly than the male."

    My attempts at lifting heavy objects

    Current maxes:

    Squat 145 kg (320 lbs)
    Bench 67.5 kg (149 lbs)
    DL: 142.5 kg (314 lbs)

    ...oh, and I'm a girl.

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    Oooooh!!! How was the premiere?? *Imagines valkyries deadlifting*

    I take it an oreo double cream isn`t the same thing? Heh heh
    (If you and Built can pollute my journal with lots of talk about bad evil junk food, I can surely drop a little oreo reference in yours.)
    Women who look at men like chests and biceps. Women who touch men like asses. Start squatting.

    "It`s not a grudge. I just don`t like you." - my friend Scott.

    "Dude, yer beyond a tool. Yer the whole damn shed."
    -me

    Stats:
    Female, 5'0, 127ish lbs (this is a damn lie...closer to 133.)
    Current Max Lifts:
    Deadlift- 245 x 1
    RDL - 185 x 5 x 5
    Squat - 155 x 3
    Bench - 105 x 2

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    Hydrox. Only Hydrox. Which I understand no longer exist?
    "The female of the species is more deadly than the male."

    My attempts at lifting heavy objects

    Current maxes:

    Squat 145 kg (320 lbs)
    Bench 67.5 kg (149 lbs)
    DL: 142.5 kg (314 lbs)

    ...oh, and I'm a girl.

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    As for the premiere, the singing from all concerned was fantastic--there was a lot of booing for the director, though, which was not altogether undeserved. There were some really questionable production ideas in this.
    Last edited by tholian8; 03-06-2005 at 07:40 PM.
    "The female of the species is more deadly than the male."

    My attempts at lifting heavy objects

    Current maxes:

    Squat 145 kg (320 lbs)
    Bench 67.5 kg (149 lbs)
    DL: 142.5 kg (314 lbs)

    ...oh, and I'm a girl.

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