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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    weak rows work lats as much as strong chins??

    Im strong on chin-ups (Relatively!!!Relatively!!) but on palms-away back excercises like pullups and barbell rows im a lot lot weaker, weaker than i should be for just having no biceps involved


    My question is whether concentrating on barbell rows, will my lats be worked just as hard even though im using much lower weight?? Are my weak forearms/brachius (? etc) limiting the overload i can put on my lats??

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    let's see your whole routine

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    You probably have relatively strong(er) biceps and weak lats.

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    Hijacking here: I did bent over rows for the first time yesterday and I had to use a belt to keep my back straight. I did them after DLs so I really needed them, but I was just wondering if the belt is necessary? Was it overkill or is it ok to use a belt even though I'm not working my lower back in the given exercise.

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    I do fullbody in a day

    PM workout (after squats) is 3-4 barbell rows, then 2-3 chins. I dont do any other bicep work


    My fresh chinning strength is BW(174lbs)*75lbs * 5-8, while my fresh barbell row is 176lbs*5
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZebraShu
    1)Im strong on chin-ups (Relatively!!!Relatively!!) but on palms-away back excercises like pullups and barbell rows im a lot lot weaker, weaker than i should be for just having no biceps involved


    2) My question is whether concentrating on barbell rows, will my lats be worked just as hard even though im using much lower weight?? Are my weak forearms/brachius (? etc) limiting the overload i can put on my lats??
    1) your biceps are involved when doing palms facing or away. just when they are facing away they do not get the same pump. but they are working just as hard but they will limit the overload put on your lats if they fail earlier in the exercise then doing plams facing a other direction.

    2) no, your lats will not be worked as hard. do they way you can use most weight.
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    bump my hijacking

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    It really just sounds like you need to get used to the rowing exercise itself... keep practicing it.

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