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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    eek... it's lil' Fixation! fixationdarknes's Avatar
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    When measuring size of body parts...

    ...do you want to measure them after you've worked out or just when you're sitting at home without being pumped?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    I think no pump is how most people do it.

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    Who cares?

    Freaking lift to get bigger, or stronger, or better at your damn sport, and quit worrying about weather or not your arm is 16 inches or 16.2 inches.
    Squats work better than supplements.
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    I respectfully disagree with Paul Stagg. If a person is lifting to get bigger, then measurements are helpful for guaging progress.
    Fixation, it seems to me that being consistent is the key for tracking progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Stagg
    Who cares?

    Freaking lift to get bigger, or stronger, or better at your damn sport, and quit worrying about weather or not your arm is 16 inches or 16.2 inches.
    I do lift to get bigger and stronger. But sometimes I'm just curious as to how my body has been growing in terms of size. Is it such a bad thing to want to know some of these things? I mean, I've got nothing better to do. I'd just end up playing Warcraft 3 or something.

    And thanks Jabberwocky and goodgrowin' for advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    also, not to sound like a noob... but im really more of a noob pler, i have much less interest in something like body building but my question is this: do you measure flexed or relaxed or what??

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    both, its always good to keep track of progress wheather pumped or not...I usually measure pumped because it just makes more sense when you think about it, do you measure your unit hard or soft? Same goes with your muscles bro...measure them pumped .lol
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    There are several books that include this as a part. All the advice says measure your bodyparts unflexed and unpumped. You don't measure pumped because you are not pumped all the time. The arm is the only bodypart that is measured flexed (bicep and forearm). All other measurements are supposed to be taken "relaxed" and unpumped.

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    Wouldn't it then follow if you are trying to track your progress via measurement, you would just be consistant?

    So measure whenever you want, just do it the same way every time.
    Squats work better than supplements.
    "You know, if I thought like that, I'd never put more than one plate on the bar for anything, I'd never use bands or chains, I'd never squat to parallel or below, and I'd never let out the slightest grunt when I lift. At some point in your lifting career (assuming you're planning on getting reasonably strong and big), you're going to have to accept that most people think you are some kind of freak." -Sensei
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    Thanks guys. I measured arms last night and it seems that forearms are about 10.75" and upper arms are 12.5" I'll keep measuring and hopefully I'll see size improvements, although I must say that size is of least importance to me. But it IS nice to see size improvements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Stagg
    Wouldn't it then follow if you are trying to track your progress via measurement, you would just be consistant?

    So measure whenever you want, just do it the same way every time.
    If your pump isnt consistant, neither are your measurements. I dont think pump would be consistant and would vary on training intensity, blood pressure etc.

    Keep track of progress, but probably the most important things to track are your weight and your weights/reps achieved on each exercise. Keep lots of these notes it's great for motivation.
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    Thanks guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixationdarknes
    Thanks guys. I measured arms last night and it seems that forearms are about 10.75" and upper arms are 12.5" I'll keep measuring and hopefully I'll see size improvements, although I must say that size is of least importance to me. But it IS nice to see size improvements.
    Your bigger than I was at 18 so keep it up, your ahead of me for one.

    I agree with paul, just keep it consistent and dont sweat the small stuff.
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    Thanks smalls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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