Due to lack of better term I call this lifting to body weight ratio. Lemme explain what i mean. Considering one's body weight, that person should aim to lift a certain amount (depending on the exercise) of their body weight to be considered "strong." I use the term "strong" loosely.
For instance, I think benching 1.5 times one's body weight is a great goal
Leg press might be 2.5 and so on.
What are good "ratios" for squat, deadlift, barbell row and military press?
IMO, I don't see a point in looking at ratios. Just aim to lift big, and then lift big.
Last edited by fixationdarknes; 03-03-2005 at 06:25 PM.
this way you have a nice balance of strength throughout your body. If you just aim to lift big regardless, then it seems their is lack of direction. I mean it's good to get stronger as times goes by and thus, results occur. But it's something to think about.Originally Posted by fixationdarknes
Last edited by Ares; 03-03-2005 at 06:33 PM.
Agreed. Shaolin, can you maybe rephrase your post? I didn't understand it either.Originally Posted by Ares
Last edited by fixationdarknes; 03-03-2005 at 06:36 PM.
give or take:
Squats work better than supplements.
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Anyone who could do those lifts, regardless of bodyweight, would be strong in my opinion. Leg press on the other hand, minimum 15 X BW for it to be even remotely impressive.Originally Posted by Paul Stagg
your crazy! 15 x BW! I would have to leg press 2550!Originally Posted by TheMachine
That was a joke. The leg press is such a circus lift someone could tell me they leg pressed 300000lbs and I wouldn't really be impressed. At one point I could leg press 12 plates per side for sets of 15 and you know what? My squat still stunk. Leg press is ok for beginners but it won't take you very far.Originally Posted by Maddawg
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350lb Incline Bench
285lb Push Press
True dat. Squats are much better.Originally Posted by TheMachine
Chances are your form was abysmal then. Clearly whichever of the 2 lifts you perform more often you will be "better" at, but assuming you're doing both in your routine there should be a definite correlation.Originally Posted by TheMachine
For the record, I don't squat. I only do leg press and my legs are not lacking.
Is it bad for me to weigh 170 and only bench 150? To that thing above it says i should be benching 255. Im not really that fat eather. With a shirt on you cant really tell. lol What should a normal 15 year old bench? am i normal?Originally Posted by Paul Stagg
Don't worry. I weigh 150 and can probably only max about 130. It's not that you're not normal. Just keep lifting and keep eating, and try to make those gains.Originally Posted by Maddawg
I would agree that these numbers are very respectable. Not that someone is weak if they can't put up those numbers at all, though. But, regardless of body weight, that just makes me say "Damn, that guy's a beast."Originally Posted by Paul Stagg
Man gun for 2X bodyweight ratio on ur bench and you get some serious respect in the gym...I currently have like 1.6-1.7 times my body weight on the bench...
lmao, I just found the point of reference there...Originally Posted by MixmasterNash
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To a certain degree I agree with ya Mix. I mean I'd respect them as a good bencher, but as a serious lifter, they wouldn't garner the respect that a well balanced lifter would.
Fuck, fight, or hold the light.
I'm not talking about equipped PLers or professionals. They can do whatever they want. If Gene Rychlak (sp?) can bench more than he squats, who cares? I'm definately taking about us nomal lifters.
as long as you consider yourself strong, thats all that matters IMO.
The ideal max lift to body weight ratio is actually a very simple equation -- established in ancient Greece by the Greco Roman wrestler Claudisious Maravendious -- that takes into account two factors:
Your Weight (y)The Weight of the Guy Who Wants to Kick Your A$$ (y)
If x > y, then it is more likely than not (assuming both you and your opponent work out and can bench at least your own respective body weights) that you are at your IMLTBW ratio (ideal max lift to body weight) and can be considered capably strong.
If, however, x < y, then it is likely that your are below the IMLTBW ratio and need to increase the poundages of your lifts prior to any altercation with the individual associated with the variable y. The reason for this is that should indiviudal y sit on you during said altercation, you would have no chance of pressing him or her off of you. (Interestingly enough, this formula also applies for certain sexual positions where the female is "on top" and the man is on the bottom. Hence the addage: If you can't press her, don't undress her.)
Uhm...what is 'x' ? Just some random variable?Originally Posted by Ugly Genius