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    opening a gym

    Sometime in the future, I'd maybe like to open a gym. Nothing definate, but I've given it some thought. My gym has Cybex equipment, and while it's okay, it's not the greatest. What brands of equipment do you think are absolute, pure quality? Also, what brand and type of dumbells do you recommend?

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    i love hammer strength machines

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    Free weights are good...
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    I have some Gold's Gym equipment, and am getting more, but I don't know that many brands. Gold's Gym is good enough for me though.
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    I know a lot of places lease the equip or buy refurbs. Not sure if you want to go that route but I sent up a home gym in my summer home and it was DAMN expensive with new commercial equip. Best of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mission
    Sometime in the future, I'd maybe like to open a gym. Nothing definate, but I've given it some thought. My gym has Cybex equipment, and while it's okay, it's not the greatest. What brands of equipment do you think are absolute, pure quality? Also, what brand and type of dumbells do you recommend?

    thanks
    How can you knock Cybex bro? That is seriously some of the top of the line equipment around. Lifetime Fitness is considered top notch as well. Free motion machines are also starting to gain their place in the industry as well. Lifetime fitness owns Hammer Strenght I believe...or cybex, or both..I can't recall.

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    Cam machines are good, like the ones made by Strive.

    Dumbells...it really doesn't matter but I'd get rubber coated ones that increase in increments of 2.5lbs. Its more expensive but much nicer to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ares
    Free weights are good...

    Well its not hard to pick out an olympic weight stack, you basically have hexagonal or traditional and rubber plated or bare metal to choose from. Once again I'd probably go with hexagon + rubber for olympic style freeweights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium_Jim
    I have some Gold's Gym equipment, and am getting more, but I don't know that many brands. Gold's Gym is good enough for me though.
    i wasnt aware that golds gym produces their own equipment, as mine uses hammer strength themselves.

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    Med-X, Nautilus, and Hammer Strength. These 3 companies are the top in the strength training indusrty. Cybex is alright, but Nautilus, Hammer Strength, and Med-X all have a better strength curve than Cybex machines do. These machines are easy to maintain, and you don't need to spend a bunch of time keeping them in tip top shape.

    Stay away from Strive, Epic, Life Fitness, and Hoist pieces of equipment. I would really look at Med-X, Hammer Strength, Nautilus (New, and Old Models), and then Cybex.

    Life Fitness makes some decent cardio equipment, but don't buy any of their strength training stuff.
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    I would not go with rubber coated dumbells as once they get heavier they are absolutely huge...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidior
    I would not go with rubber coated dumbells as once they get heavier they are absolutely huge...

    They're really no bigger than solid iron dumbells.


    I definately WOULDN'T go with the dumbell handles that have 10lb and 5lb plates perminately attached to the handle. Eventually they come lose and are pieces of junk...I'm battling with this at my gym right now.

    So as I see it, you have the solid iron kind uncovered, or solid iron covered in rubber. Then you could have different grips like a hexagonal grip that I like but not all people do, or you have the traditional round grip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryuage
    i wasnt aware that golds gym produces their own equipment, as mine uses hammer strength themselves.

    They produce both machines and weights, or atleast have their name tattoo'd on the equipment in their gym.
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    Atlantis is pretty good equipment as well. I wouldn't look down on cybex. They have a wide range of stuff.

    Good luck with the gym. Hope you are rich. If you search you'll find many threads of other people having the same aspirations as you. We've gone into extreme detail in some threads, which basically shot down any notion of this being feasible with a few friends as investors and a small business loan from the bank.

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    There used to be a gym by me that was basically all free weights, maybe a bike or two. It was full of huge guys, I don't think any chicks went. That's the kind of gym I'd open - all free weights and power racks.

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    My gym has Cybex and Paramount equipment mostly, some nautilus. It's pretty decent stuff. For free weights it has mostly York barbells, plates and dumbells. Definitely go with solid iron for those. Non rubber coated is cheaper and will last just about as long. I think most people prefer round grips.
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    FYI, I train upper body entirely freeweight and lower body about 50/50. I was concerned about freeweight equipment as well as machines. The Cybex olympic bench sucks IMO. It is absolutely horrible for heavy lifting, is too low to the ground, and it's pad doesn't support anyone with even a remotely big back. It's crap IMO. I don't like the Cybex cable stuff, because the weight stacks aren't nearly heavy enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doobs
    There used to be a gym by me that was basically all free weights, maybe a bike or two. It was full of huge guys, I don't think any chicks went. That's the kind of gym I'd open - all free weights and power racks.
    I'd say 99% of gyms like that would fail in the first year though. There's a reason most new gyms will open with fancy equipment, and focus as much, if not more on cardio, and universal equipment. Plain fact is that the average trainee isn't a 240lb powerlifter, or only know that racks are for biceps curls in.

    Plus if you plan on appealing at all to the other gender, you need to know that on average they will never set foot in the free weight section. So unless you live in an area where powerlifting is a huge thing, and there are tons of guys and for some reason no gym already catering to it, you are bound to fail.

    Biggest target market seems to be upper middle class yuppies, who want to come in, do their circuit training routine, or take a class and get out of there. So machines, cardio equipment, classes, and other services like day care are what appeal to this market.
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    I see pictures of Maxicam olympic benches in a lot of magazines. They look great for heavy lifting. Anybody use em/how was it?

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    I generally like HammerStrength equipment.

    and for dumbbells I think the only kind to buy is any brand that sells 1-piece cast-iron DBs as opposed to the ones with plates that move and swivel, and inevitably loosen and have the welds break

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElPietro
    I'd say 99% of gyms like that would fail in the first year though. There's a reason most new gyms will open with fancy equipment, and focus as much, if not more on cardio, and universal equipment. Plain fact is that the average trainee isn't a 240lb powerlifter, or only know that racks are for biceps curls in.

    Plus if you plan on appealing at all to the other gender, you need to know that on average they will never set foot in the free weight section. So unless you live in an area where powerlifting is a huge thing, and there are tons of guys and for some reason no gym already catering to it, you are bound to fail.

    Biggest target market seems to be upper middle class yuppies, who want to come in, do their circuit training routine, or take a class and get out of there. So machines, cardio equipment, classes, and other services like day care are what appeal to this market.
    Yeah I know what you mean. High school football is serious in my town, and that gym was full of those guys. I don't know what happened to that place, but odds are it shut down because of the reasons you stated. I'm just saying I'd rather have a gym like that than one with a bunch of yuppies, feasible or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryuage
    i wasnt aware that golds gym produces their own equipment
    I have a couple Gold's Gym 20kg plates at home.

    And I agree with what ElPietro is saying.

    Anyways, good luck with it.
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    My top :

    #1 - Strive
    #2 - Hammer Strength (plate loaded only).
    #3 (tie) - Cybex Eage, Technogym, Lifetime Fitness

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    Thanks for all the help so far, guys. One really high quality Cybex makes is their multigym. There's one at my gym and it has a cable crossover, lat pulldown, assisted chinup/dip, pullup bar, and cable row. Do any other companies make things similar WITH ASSISTED CHINUP/DIP? I've looked all over but so far Cybex seems to be the only one.

    And yeah, I wish I could open an all freeweight and cable gym. I'd also put gymnastic links and ropes hanging from the ceiling for muscle ups and climbing (two excellent excersises). Unfortinately, there's not a big enough audience for a gym like that.

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