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    Jeez...my dad is driving me crazy with his talk about how "lifting heavy is bad"

    I couldn't help but just tell someone that I made sweet gains with my Squats today (10 lb. increase, hehe). I always make gains (usually 5 lbs. a week), but I just wanted to tell my dad. After telling him how much I was squatting today, he went into this whole freaking lecture about how if I keep doing Squats, my spine will eventually become crippled or something.

    One of the dumbest things he said was this: "When you Squat, your goal shouldn't be to keep increasing the weight that you lift and eventually be lifting hundreds of pounds." I was thinking to myself: "Uhm...actually, that's EXACTLY what my goal is."

    He also said: "Just do more reps as you progress, not more weight. That way, you can be healthy and you can still be strong." I kept trying to tell him that doing more "reps" won't really increase my strength at all, and he said: "That's okay. I'd rather you be healthy and be able to lift a decent amount, then to be unhealthy and lift a lot."

    Wow...he acts like I shouldn't be lifting hard and stuff. Also, he runs everyday. Isn't there proof that running (slamming feet into the ground) puts more pressure on the spine than squatting ever does?

    Btw, I rep 140 lbs. when doing Squats, and my dad said: "Don't lift very much more tha nthat, because our bodies are supposed to have 'limits.'" I was trying to tell him that I'm nowhere near my bodily limit for squatting (or any other exercise). I told him that I AM careful and take precautions (wearing belts, using correct form) and he tells me that I'm eventually going to be walking around like a cripple. Eh...my dad seems kind of confused.

    Another thing I told him was that if I don't lift and don't strengthen my back, my chances of back injury will probably be even HIGHER when I'm at an older age. He just doesn't listen to me...

    Is there a link or any proof that I can show to my dad that squatting is bad for you, and that running puts just as much (if not more) pressure on your spine/back? I keep trying to tell him, but he won't stop annoying me. Jeez...how can I get him off my back? (lol, funny because this whole argument started about "backs")
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    Not sure what to say in your situation but I am lucky to have a dad that wants to push me into getting into better shape. When I come home and tell him the gains I have made he gives me more of a "Thats all? You should raise that by 5 pounds next week!" kinda thing (motivation) than a "Slow it down. You shouldn't be lifting that much. Not goo for you."
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    Just don't talk to him about your progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopetobefit
    Not sure what to say in your situation but I am lucky to have a dad that wants to push me into getting into better shape. When I come home and tell him the gains I have made he gives me more of a "Thats all? You should raise that by 5 pounds next week!" kinda thing (motivation) than a "Slow it down. You shouldn't be lifting that much. Not goo for you."
    Yeah, that's exactly how I feel when my dad keeps telling me that I shouldn't lift "more than the body can handle." Gee...well, thanks for the encouragement Dad.

    I wish my dad could understand more about weightlifting, like your dad does. How can I educate him upon this so that he can stop telling me that I shouldn't be lifting heavy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopetobefit
    Just don't talk to him about your progress.
    I won't anymore (have learned from experience now not to), but still. He thinks I am "damaging my body" by squatting a lot.

    He told me: "You shouldn't be pushing your body more than it can handle." Yeah, well...how am I going to grow if I don't push myself? Jeez...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    Your supposed to push your body to the limits (resonably) in order to make gains. You can't expect to stay the same (weight wise) and see gains after awile, unless there was some factor being changed. I don't know but some quote comes to mind "If you always do what you've always done. You'll always get what you've always had." Not sure if thats any good but it kinda says it. That kinda says if you don't push yourself and that if you don't change things you will stay the same and I guess that would apply to weightlifting as in other things in life. But your best bet is to search on the internet showing studies of how lifting heavy (heavy being used loosly as weights you know you can handle) can help you in the long run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopetobefit
    Your supposed to push your body to the limits (resonably) in order to make gains. You can't expect to stay the same (weight wise) and see gains after awile, unless there was some factor being changed. I don't know but some quote comes to mind "If you always do what you've always done. You'll always get what you've always had." Not sure if thats any good but it kinda says it. That kinda says if you don't push yourself and that if you don't change things you will stay the same and I guess that would apply to weightlifting as in other things in life. But your best bet is to search on the internet showing studies of how lifting heavy (heavy being used loosly as weights you know you can handle) can help you in the long run.
    Thanks. That's what I was looking for. It's not like I'm loading up over 200 pounds and trying to squat it when I'm not even strong enough to do it yet. I'm steadily progressing 5-10 lbs. a week. I've already tried looking up something on the Internet that could convince him otherwise. I haven't found anything worthwhile yet, but I'll try again.
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    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    Not sure if this helps at all, but I did a search and found this website with some information on the topic of "Light Weight vs. Heavy Weight." I didn't read it all, but I did scan through it and maybe I missed some things but it had some points you could maybe tell your dad or maybe print out and give to him for him to read.

    http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/tr...vy-lifting.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopetobefit
    Not sure if this helps at all, but I did a search and found this website with some information on the topic of "Light Weight vs. Heavy Weight." I didn't read it all, but I did scan through it and maybe I missed some things but it had some points you could maybe tell your dad or maybe print out and give to him for him to read.

    http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/tr...vy-lifting.htm
    Thanks, that article has some good points that I could show to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    When I told my dad that I deaadlifted 300lbs, he said "All the weight on that big bar?"

    Then he said.."So Patrick, what are you gonna do with all of these new muscles?"

    I had no answer, and still don't. I do it first and foremost for stress relief. The gains in size and strength are a much-loved bonus I suppose.
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    Hm...I work out for strength and size. Stress relief is a good bonus too, except it kind of defeats the purpose when my dad and I argue about how "lifting heavy is bad." Hmph...if only my dad could understand.
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    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    Ignorance can make for some smash-my-head-into-the-wall moments.

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    Wow, Built is spreading her evil all over this board!
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    my dad once told me to wear belt when squatting over 135lbs... then one day i told him i did 455 w/o a belt and it felt great, i thought he was going to pass out. he thinks i should wear a belt to bench lol, hes funny.
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    Haha, nice built. And I'm gonna show him that article that hopetobefit gave me, and hopefully he'll understand a bit more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    remember where your dad is coming from. he might be ignorant but he is honestly afraid that something bad is gonna happen to you, it will be hard to convince him that you wont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixationdarknes
    Yeah, that's exactly how I feel when my dad keeps telling me that I shouldn't lift "more than the body can handle." Gee...well, thanks for the encouragement Dad.

    I wish my dad could understand more about weightlifting, like your dad does. How can I educate him upon this so that he can stop telling me that I shouldn't be lifting heavy?
    Well, he's right in a sense. If you lift more than your body can handle, you're likely to injure yourself. That's why progress in weight lifting is good...so your body can handle more.
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    so your dad has no experience/background with athletics and weight training?

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    Uh Built ? um, uh, yeah.

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    just be glad you have a father that cares about your health, though his goals for you might be off base, at least he is involved in your life. also, dont completely discount his advice, if he is an avid runner, he may be able to give you advice and tips on things that may be useful one day. i am lucky to have an avid powerlifter and an avid distance runner as close relatives and the advice from both of them has helped me out. ill bet your dad just doesnt want you to mess up your back, my dad is the same way about my squats, i think as we get older we freak out more about screwing up our backs, because the back is such a mystery to most of us.

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    Built's post should win an award.

    Fixation - you are 15. Your dad is just trying to do his best to protect you from hurting yourself, and most of the time, he's going to be right. If you really want to involve him in what you do, tell him WHY you train, and what your goals are. Tell him that strenght training is generally very good for people. Tell him that for people your age, this kind of activity can be correlated with lower incidence of alcohol and drug use. Tell him you operate within limits, and show him you are not being OCD about it. Tell him that the things you learn about discipline in your lifting applies to schoolwork.

    Don't fight with him about it. He's not saying you can't do this, he's just operating on some old myths, and of course, concern about your well being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Built
    I'm 41, and I'm a chick.

    I squat what you do.

    Tell him that.

    Hehehehe...

    Damn built, that made my afternoon.
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