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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    eek... it's lil' Fixation! fixationdarknes's Avatar
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    What equipment do you guys use for Calf Raises?

    Machine, BB, or DBs? And why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    fixation it has been said before and I will say it again, you ask more questions than anyone I have ever met lol ....but I use the standing calf raise machine, and the plate loaded seated one, I find doing the seated one better to do first because you can't cheat as much
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    I use the seated calf raise machine, and the smith machine for my calf raises.

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    seated, donkey raises, standing
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    donkey raises and I bust out a set at the end of my leg presses too.

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    For Donkeys, is it really necessary to have a partner sit on you?...because I don't think I'm gonna find anyone in the gym who will sit on me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixationdarknes
    For Donkeys, is it really necessary to have a partner sit on you?...because I don't think I'm gonna find anyone in the gym who will sit on me.
    what?
    You will soon see Getfit in OngII Flying Knee Thingys of Doom see if the feisty greek can survive the kicks of Steel Leg From Shaolin Soccer,Dim Mak(def touch) from ChungLee,and Flying Crane by Daniel-san-El Pietro

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    You be quiet or i'll clean and press your narrow francophone self-Callahan

    Lift for gains,not glory.Control your ego and the weight

    What a strong girl! This leads me to believe you can severly injure most of the male population-Nick Hatfield

    You're blazing white hot,anyone ever tell you that? Sometimes i think you have fingers faster then Superman when it comes to posts on WBB forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by getfit
    what?
    I don't know, I searched google for donkey calf raises and it showed some guy doing calf raises while someone else was sitting on him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    i just use the donkey calf machine that we have at my gym
    You will soon see Getfit in OngII Flying Knee Thingys of Doom see if the feisty greek can survive the kicks of Steel Leg From Shaolin Soccer,Dim Mak(def touch) from ChungLee,and Flying Crane by Daniel-san-El Pietro

    Spray it with windex greek!-the famous El Pietro

    You be quiet or i'll clean and press your narrow francophone self-Callahan

    Lift for gains,not glory.Control your ego and the weight

    What a strong girl! This leads me to believe you can severly injure most of the male population-Nick Hatfield

    You're blazing white hot,anyone ever tell you that? Sometimes i think you have fingers faster then Superman when it comes to posts on WBB forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fixationdarknes
    I don't know, I searched google for donkey calf raises and it showed some guy doing calf raises while someone else was sitting on him.
    For donkeys, what's necessary is that you bend at the waist, and the weight is distributed across your hips. The easiest way to do this, without a special machine, is to have a partner sit on you. A few gyms have a donkey calf machine to get the same effect--you basically put your arse under the weighted pad.
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    i agree with tholian i haven't seen anyone doing that in my gym but yes i've seen it done before in other gyms
    You will soon see Getfit in OngII Flying Knee Thingys of Doom see if the feisty greek can survive the kicks of Steel Leg From Shaolin Soccer,Dim Mak(def touch) from ChungLee,and Flying Crane by Daniel-san-El Pietro

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    You be quiet or i'll clean and press your narrow francophone self-Callahan

    Lift for gains,not glory.Control your ego and the weight

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    You're blazing white hot,anyone ever tell you that? Sometimes i think you have fingers faster then Superman when it comes to posts on WBB forums.
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    I don't have a Donkey Calf Raise machine at my school and no one is going to sit on me. What is a good alternative to Donkeys? Or are there none?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    I don't have any calf machines at home, so would it be okay to just use a BB to do calf raises?...holding the BB like I would when doing shrugs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    just did my leg day and i use a smith machine loaded with a $hit load of weight, and one of those stupid aerobic step up plastic thingys. so i can stand on the edge of the plastic thingy and put the bar on my back like squats, and do the calf raises with my heels hangin off the edge so i can go down extra far.
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    But would I have to place the BB on my traps/posterior delts to do calf raises? I was thinking of just gripping the bar like I would when shrugging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    i would assume that it is easier to put the bar on your shoulders rather than try and hold it, i guess it would work either way but thats just my 2 cents
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    I do bodyweight raises, three sets to failure.

    45lb plate laying with the cutout side down..lay a towel on it..add another 45lb plate cutout side down..i raise from those, one leg at a time with the other foot locked behind my working foot's ankle, while steadying myself on the arm of my treadmill. It works..

    But, then again I'm raising 245 for bodyweight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrelwooddowd
    I do bodyweight raises, three sets to failure.

    45lb plate laying with the cutout side down..lay a towel on it..add another 45lb plate cutout side down..i raise from those, one leg at a time with the other foot locked behind my working foot's ankle, while steadying myself on the arm of my treadmill. It works..

    But, then again I'm raising 245 for bodyweight.
    When your calves get stronger, you don't add any weight at all? And if so, how many reps are you up to now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    I do plate loaded seated calf raises and I use the Leg Press. I tried using dumbells before but could do much more than my grip would allow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guido
    I do plate loaded seated calf raises and I use the Leg Press. I tried using dumbells before but could do much more than my grip would allow.
    I've tried doing toe presses in the leg press machine before, but I prefer using the calf raise machine or using BB or something. And if your grip can't handle the DBs, why not use a BB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    on smith machine. as i can put lots of weight on really with a full ROM
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    Lol, if I were in the position needed for donkey calf raises, I'd probably fight any guy that got within 10 feet of me!
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    Over the past 4-5 weeks I've been jumping rope, my calves have never looked better.

    I do pound away on them once or twice a week using heavy weight and switching between Donkey calves, Standing Calves and Seated calve machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElPietro
    Lol, if I were in the position needed for donkey calf raises, I'd probably fight any guy that got within 10 feet of me!
    Oye. I could make a couple dozen comments right about now...

    I use a standing calf raise machine, and will be doing it on the leg press as well. Though I'm way too lazy to load that many plates for calf raises, so I'll probably end up using the leg press machine . Seated is good too, but I hurt myself last time so no more of that.
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    I do standing and seated calf raises using machines.
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