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Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Pull-ups vs. Chin-ups

    If you had to choose from one of those exercises for your back, which one would you choose. I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter anyways since both exercises target the same muscles.

    How about mix gripping. Like one set with overhand grip; second set with palms facing each other, and third set with underhand grip. Would that help in anyway?

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    Definetly pull-ups for my back. I do chin ups on arm day for my bi's cause I find I work more arm than anything else in chins, but with pull-ups I barely feel it in my arms and really feel it in my back.

    So for back- Pull-ups

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    What do you consider a pullup or a chinup? I haven't been able to determine which are hands facing in or hands facing out.

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    The classic discription has chin ups with the palms facing your face and pull-ups with the palms facing away... but you'll see 100's of definitions floating around.

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    I'd use all three grips.
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    All three of above, plus neutral. Vary within or between workouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixmasterNash
    All three of above, plus neutral. Vary within or between workouts.
    Neutral = palms facing each other, correct?
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    What are the three positions?

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    See first post; pullup, chinup, mixed grip

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    Yup. I do all three. I also find that pull ups make you use your back more and less of your bi's.
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    Yep.

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    whoops, I had it backwords, change my mark as pull ups, I had them reversed
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    EXRX says chinups have palms facing away, right? I thought when you have palms facing you it's a reverse grip chin. There is a difference between a pull-up bar and a chinup bar right?

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    pullups are harder, I do those.

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    A bar is a bar.

    Pullups are palms facing away.

    Chinups are palms facing you.

    Definitions are often mixed.

    Just do them.

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    Wide grip pullups own all if you want a good back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mission
    Wide grip pullups own all if you want a good back.
    And potentially messed up shoulders, not to mention a less effective exercise.

    Forget wide grips. It's a myth that wide grip = wide back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixmasterNash
    And potentially messed up shoulders, not to mention a less effective exercise.

    Forget wide grips. It's a myth that wide grip = wide back.
    Yeah. I see so many people at my school doing wide-grip behind-the-neck pullups and thinking it's so cool that they could bust out 1 or 2 reps. I try to tell some of them but no one will listen to me. Fine...LET them have messed up shoulders!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fixationdarknes
    Yeah. I see so many people at my school doing wide-grip behind-the-neck pullups and thinking it's so cool that they could bust out 1 or 2 reps. I try to tell some of them but no one will listen to me. Fine...LET them have messed up shoulders!
    lol yea just keep at the close grips, and when your back busts out like no other they'll be humbled and scream OOU FIXATION YOU OWN US
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    I think i might just start doing all three also.

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    lol. i think pullups are better for your back because chinups will split some of the weight onto your biceps, whereas pullups will concentrate that displaced weight onto your upper triceps region/back
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    I find pullups to rock my forearms and biceps, with little to no lat involvement, while chinups get my lats really hard, with a little bicep and forearm help.

    Am I doing something wrong? Also, do you guys do all 3 grips in one workout session rotating grip on different sets?...or do you guys just do one grip one back workout session...then the next session, do a different grip (and so on...)?

    Also, I don't have a neutral grip bar at home.

    And when you guys do pullups, do you find it hard to do close-grip pullups and therefore use a shoulder-width grip?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixationdarknes
    I find pullups to rock my forearms and biceps, with little to no lat involvement, while chinups get my lats really hard, with a little bicep and forearm help.

    Am I doing something wrong?
    You're probably not strong enough for regular pullups yet. Keep rockin the chins until pullups seem relatively easy. Then weight them
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    Quote Originally Posted by trich daddy
    You're probably not strong enough for regular pullups yet. Keep rockin the chins until pullups seem relatively easy. Then weight them
    So, if I just do chinups on my first 2 sets, and for the last set do as many pullups as I can, would that work? Or should I just not do pullups at ALL right now?
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