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    8 weeks of UD2

    UD2 Round #2 here we come -

    Anyway I haven't had a journal in quite some time, so I figure its time for another. Today, the 28th, I am currently on day 1 of my second UD2 cycle. The first time around I went for 6 weeks and lost around 2% bodyfat. I have stopped drinking quite a bit and haven't smoked the chronic for over a month. Some of the reasons for that is the lack of work over the last three months, so no money. Plus I want to pass a drug test when I do get offered a job.

    First time around on UD2 I kinda messed around with my diet and workout. Split up the body on Monday and Tuesday, but found out that I wasn't doing enough volume. Half of what I was supposed to be doing. Who knows, maybe if I was doing the correct volume, I may have lost twice the bodyfat. I took the last week off to give my body time to recooperate. I have gained a bunch of water weight back and my weight is about 216 and bodyfat around 12.6%. I will check tonight or tomorrow for accurate bodyfat. Well, here's how it'll be set up for the next 6-8 weeks.

    Workout
    Monday-
    Leg Press - 3 sets x 15
    Leg Curl - 3 sets x 15
    Flat BB - 3 sets x 15
    BB Row - 3 sets x 15
    Side Raise - 1 set x 15
    Front Raise - 1 set x 15
    Calf Raises - 3 sets x 15
    Standing BB Curl - 2 sets x 15
    Rope Pushdowns - 2 sets x 15
    (Repeat) - All exercises supersetted

    Tuesday -
    Hack Squat/Front Squat - 3 sets x 15
    Leg Curl - 3 sets x 15
    Decline DB - 3 sets x 15
    Pulldowns - 3 sets x 15
    Side Raise - 1 set x 15
    Front Raise - 1 set x 15
    Calf Raises - 3 sets x 15
    Alt. DB Curl - 2 sets x 15
    BB Skulls - 2 sets x 15
    (Repeat) - All exercises supersetted

    Thursday -
    Leg Press - 2 sets x 6-12
    Leg Curl - 2 sets x 6-12
    Leg Extension - 2 sets x 6-12
    Calf Raises - 4 sets x 6-12
    Flat BB - 2 sets x 6-12
    Cable Rows - 2 sets x 6-12
    Incline BB - 2 sets x 6-12
    Pullups - 2 sets x 6-12
    BB Curls - 2 sets x 6-12
    Rope Pushdowns - 2 sets x 6-12

    Saturday -
    Deadlifts - 3 sets x 3-5
    Flat DB - 3 sets x 3-5
    Front Squats - 4 sets x 3-5
    DB Shrugs - 3 sets x 3-5
    Clean + Press - 2 sets x 3-5
    Hang Cleans - 2 sets x 3-5

    Diet
    MTW-
    Meal 1 - 4 egg whites, 1 whole egg, 15g cheese, 90g ham, 8 oz. milk, 1g fish oil, vitamins
    Meal 2 - 1 can tuna, 1 tbsp dressing, 2 cups lettuce, broccoli, onions, 1g fish oil
    Meal 3 - 200-250g chicken, 1 tbsp ff ranch, 1/2 cup broccoli, 2 tbsp coconut milk, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 2g fish oil
    Meal 4 - 2 1/2 cups broccoli, 15g cheese, 90g turkey, 1 scoop protein, 2g fish oil

    Thursday AM - 3 out of the 4 meals above, then eat/drink 15g pro/30g carb 30-60 minutes before workout.
    Thursday PM - Friday PM - 1500g carbs/240g protein/70g fat
    Saturday and Sunday - ~3000 calories

    Plan is to get around 9% bodyfat by my the end of this cycle, about two weeks before my 21st birthday. Never been below 11% bodyfat, so lets see what happens. Here we go! First workout in about 2 1/2 hours.
    Last edited by heathj; 03-28-2005 at 04:03 PM. Reason: for B&I

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    PSMF != UD2

    Pfft.

    Seriously, though, good luck!

    We tend to think of Sisyphus as a tragic hero, condemned by the gods to shoulder his rock sweatily up the mountain, and again up the mountain, forever. The truth is that Sisyphus is in love with the rock. He cherishes every roughness and every ounce of it. He talks to it, sings to it. It has become the mysterious Other. He even dreams of it as he sleepwalks upward. Life is unimaginable without it, looming always above him like a huge gray moon. He doesn’t realize that at any moment he is permitted to step aside, let the rock hurtle to the bottom, and go home.

    Parables and Portraits, Stephen Mitchell

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    well it's close enough to a psmf...so what if i have some fat and carbs...its just some!

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    What kind of diet are you following for your Power Workout days? (In terms of ratios)
    "It is often said, mainly by the "no-contests", that although there is no positive evidence for the existence of God, nor is there evidence against his existence. So it is best to keep an open mind and be agnostic. At first sight that seems an unassailable position, at least in the weak sense of Pascal's wager. But on second thought it seems a cop-out, because the same could be said of Father Christmas and tooth fairies. There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?"

    Richard Dawkins


    "Out of all of the sects in the world, we notice an uncanny coincidence: the overwhelming majority just happen to choose the one that their parents belong to. Not the sect that has the best evidence in its favour, the best miracles, the best moral code, the best cathedral, the best stained glass, the best music: when it comes to choosing from the smorgasbord of available religions, their potential virtues seem to count for nothing, compared to the matter of heredity. This is an unmistakable fact; nobody could seriously deny it. Yet people with full knowledge of the arbitrary nature of this heredity, somehow manage to go on believing in their religion, often with such fanaticism that they are prepared to murder people who follow a different one."


    Richard Dawkins


    "Bah. You know I hate poor people."

    Paul Stagg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manveet
    What kind of diet are you following for your Power Workout days? (In terms of ratios)
    30% pro/50% carbs/20% fat on the power workout day and 40% pro/30% carb/30% fat on the day after.

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    Monday, March 28, 2005
    Leg Press - 1st round: 230 x 15, 15, 15 2nd: 230 x 15, 205 x 15, 15
    -ss-
    Leg Curl - 1st round: 45 x 15, 15, 55 x 15 2nd: 90 x 15, 15, 15
    Flat BB - 1st round: 170 x 15, 15, 15 2nd: 165 x 15, 15, 15
    BB Row - 1st round: 135 x 15, 15, 15 2nd: 135 x 15, 15, 15
    Side Raise - 1st round: 10's x 15 2nd: 10's x 15
    Front Raise - 1st round: 10's x 15 2nd: 10's x 15
    Standing Calf, donkey, seated - 1st round: 100 x 15, 200 x 15 2nd: 100 x 15, 200 x 15, 70 x 15
    Standing BB Curl - 1st round: 40 x 15, 15 2nd: 40 x 15, 15
    Rope Pushdowns - 1st round: 50 x 15, 15 2nd: 50 x 15, 15
    ---Workout time: 70 minutes---

    Leg Curl was a different machine second time around. Also I need to find a replacement for bb bench on these depletion days because I feel it too much in the shoulders. Need to focus on the chest more.

    Diet
    Meal 1 - 4 egg whites, 1 whole, 15g cheese, 90g ham, 8 oz. milk, 1g fish oil, 5mg yohimbine hcl
    Meal 2 - 1 can tuna, 1 tbsp dressing, 2 cups lettuce, onions, 1g fish oil, 5mg yohimbine hcl
    Meal 3 - 240g chicken, 1 tbsp ff ranch, 3 cups lettuce/broccoli, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 2g fish oil
    Meal 4 - (Not eaten yet) 2 cups broccoli, 15g cheese, 90g turkey, 30g scoop protein, 2g fish oil

    Forgot to buy coconut milk at the store today. Tomorrow.
    Last edited by heathj; 03-29-2005 at 06:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heathj
    Diet
    Meal 1 - 4 egg whites, 1 whole, 15g cheese, 90g ham, 8 oz. milk, 1g fish oil, 5mg yohimbine hcl
    Meal 2 - 1 can tuna, 1 tbsp dressing, 2 cups lettuce, onions, 1g fish oil, 5mg yohimbine hcl
    Meal 3 - 240g chicken, 1 tbsp ff ranch, 3 cups lettuce/broccoli, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 2g fish oil
    Meal 4 - (Not eaten yet) 2 cups broccoli, 15g cheese, 90g turkey, 30g scoop protein, 2g fish oil

    *Eats an extra large pizza*

    *chugs a 6-pack*


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    Patty, you goddamn bastard. I hate you. You and my roommates, who drink every night

    Tuesday, March 29, 2005
    Hack Squat/Leg Press - 1st round: 90 x 15, 15, 15 2nd: 205 x 15, 15, 15
    Leg Curl - 1st round: 55 x 15, 15, 15 2nd: 55 x 15, 15, 15
    Decline DB - 1st round: 50 x 15, 15, 15 2nd: 50 x 15, 15, 15
    Pulldowns - 1st round: 80 x 15, 15, 15 2nd: 80 x 15, 15, 15
    Side Raise - 1st round: 10's x 15 2nd: 10's x 15
    Front Raise - 1st round: 10's x 15 2nd: 10's x 15
    Standing Calf, donkey, seated - 1st round: 100 x 15, 180 x 15, 70 x 15 2nd: 100 x 15, 180 x 15, 70 x 15
    BB Curl/DB Curl - 1st round: 40 x 15, 25's x 15 2nd: BB Curl -40 x 15, 50 x 15
    Rope Pushdowns - 1st round: 50 x 15, 15 2nd: Skulls - 50 x 15, 15
    (All exercises/sets supersetted)
    ---Workout time: 55 minutes---

    Decline DB definitely took the stress off my shoulders and put it more on my chest. I like this much more than bb bench for depletion days. Seemed to have a lot more energy today than yesterday. Maybe because yesterday was the first day back after a week off...I dunno.

    Diet
    Meal 1 - 4 egg whites, 1 whole, 15g cheese, 90g ham, 8 oz. milk, 1g fish oil, 5mg yohimbine hcl
    Meal 2 - 9/10 can chicken, 1 tbsp ff ranch, 2 cups lettuce, 1g fish oil, 5mg yohimbine hcl
    (Not eaten meals 3&4 yet)
    Meal 3 - 240g chicken, 1 tbsp ff ranch, 3 cups lettuce/broccoli, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 2 tbsp coconut milk, 2g fish oil
    Meal 4 - 2 cups broccoli, 15g cheese, 90g turkey, 30g scoop protein, 2g fish oil

    Started my first day of school today. Haven't gone since last spring quarter. Hopefully I can pull off a 4.0. I need it.
    Last edited by heathj; 03-29-2005 at 08:59 PM.

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    I hope it turns out well. I had tremendous success on UD2 and I'm sure if you stick to it you will too!

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    Welcome back f00!

    Me /pwn1ng by Xian Rookie's journal Rookie's Picture Thread

    Damn right you will be! We don't mess around down here. Liquor and Steel, that's what we're all about -Casey

    ROFL, oh man - I usually wait until I'm on the freeway to do that. What an idiot! -teufy doing what he does best.

    You aren't strong enough or pretty enough to train in the evenings with us...better stick to noon workouts with the rest of the geriatrics. - pup

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    Gracias.

    Bodyfat - Tuesday, 29th, 2005 6:10pm - 12.6%

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    What's up with the coconut milk? I've read some good things about it, what have your experiences been like when incorporating it in your diet?
    "It is often said, mainly by the "no-contests", that although there is no positive evidence for the existence of God, nor is there evidence against his existence. So it is best to keep an open mind and be agnostic. At first sight that seems an unassailable position, at least in the weak sense of Pascal's wager. But on second thought it seems a cop-out, because the same could be said of Father Christmas and tooth fairies. There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?"

    Richard Dawkins


    "Out of all of the sects in the world, we notice an uncanny coincidence: the overwhelming majority just happen to choose the one that their parents belong to. Not the sect that has the best evidence in its favour, the best miracles, the best moral code, the best cathedral, the best stained glass, the best music: when it comes to choosing from the smorgasbord of available religions, their potential virtues seem to count for nothing, compared to the matter of heredity. This is an unmistakable fact; nobody could seriously deny it. Yet people with full knowledge of the arbitrary nature of this heredity, somehow manage to go on believing in their religion, often with such fanaticism that they are prepared to murder people who follow a different one."


    Richard Dawkins


    "Bah. You know I hate poor people."

    Paul Stagg

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    Well I haven't been using it for very long. Incorporated it in the diet the last week or two first UD2 cycle. Now I figure I'll do it for the long haul. Supposedly since it's a MCT its supposed to enter the body, give it fuel, and leave quickly. So I guess I'll have to wait and see to tell you a real answer.
    Last edited by heathj; 03-30-2005 at 04:40 PM. Reason: Incorporated not Incoorporated

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    Wednesday, March 30, 2005

    Found out today that the diet soda I thought I bought wasn't diet!! So I had about 2-3 already this week and they gave me tons of calories...bastards, it looked like diet soda!

    Ordered some thermocin today. Didn't find too many reviews on it that inspired me. The Mike Symmons one was a good story, but anyone could do that being that out of shape...anyway I'll see how it goes. Keep you guys up to date. So I ordered it on the 30th...how quickly can Danny boy and Chris get it out.

    Diet
    Meal 1 - 4 egg whites, 1 brown egg, 15g cheese, 90g ham, 8 oz. milk, 1g fish oil
    Meal 2 - 2 cups lettuce, 9/10 can chicken, 1 tbsp ff ranch, 8 oz. milk, 1g fish oil, 10mg yohimbine hcl
    (not eaten yet-->)
    Meal 3 - 240g chicken, 3 cups lettuce/broccoli, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 2 tbsp coconut milk, 2g fish oil
    Meal 4 - 2 cups broccoli, 15g cheese, 1.5 scoops protein, 90g turkey

    Gym today? I doubt it, I think I'm just gonna go outside and shoot some hoops. I am incredibly sore anyway. Damn depletion workouts.

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    The ol' diet soda switcheroo. ****s you in the mouth, don't it?

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    Good luck with the UD2 Heath, i might give it a 4 week run when i get back from St. Louis to get rid of some of this f'in bodyfat that has seemed to accumulate around my midsection.

    How close to feeling like death are you on the depletion days?
    May you be in heaven an hour before the devil knows you're dead.

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    Thursday, March 31

    Gal, bastards aren't they! Why do they make the cans look the same.

    Pup, they are pretty hard. I make sure I concentrate on the muscle thats supposed to be worked, which is why I am taking bb bench out of the depletion days. There is nothing else like working a muscle to exhaustion, then doing other bodyparts, then coming back to that same muscle...ack!

    Workout
    Leg Press - 450 x 12, 500 x 12
    Leg Curl - 80 x 12, 90 x 12
    Leg Extension - 120 x 12, 140 x 12
    Standing Calf - 120 x 12, Donkey - 270 x 12, 360 x 12, Standing - 150 x 12
    Flat BB - 215 x 12, 12
    Cable Rows - 120 x 12, 140 x 12
    Incline BB - 135 x 12, 185 x 5 + 1
    Pullups - BW x 12, 8 (slow and concentrated 2nd set)
    BB Curls - 70 x 10, 10
    Rope Pushdowns - 70 x 12, 90 x 12

    Damn good workout. Some guy deadlifted 425 x 1 today...complimented him. Seems about the third person I've seen do them (including me).

    Diet
    Meal 1 - 4 egg whites, 1 whole egg, 15g cheese, 90g ham, 8 oz. milk, 1g fish oil
    Meal 2 - can of tuna, 1 slice bread, 1/2 tbsp mayo, 1g fish oil
    (20 minutes later)
    Meal 3 - 90g turkey, 1.5 scoops protein, 8 oz. milk, 2g fish oil
    (20 minutes later--45 minutes before workout)
    1 scoop protein (21g pro) and a english muffin(50g carbs)

    Post-Workout
    2 scoops protein, 1 cup milk, 1/4 cup pineapple, 1.5 cups mixed berries, 1/2 container yogurt, 1/2 banana, 1 english muffin, 12 chips w/ salsa (94g carbs for shake + 50g for muffin = 144g carbs)

    TIME TO EAT!!

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    Tonight as well, I ate:

    10 crepes + syrups, strawberries and some powdered sugar
    1 peppermint patty (Damn that **** is good)
    9 beers
    3 wheat bagels
    2 cups raisin bran w/ 1 cup milk
    3 english muffins + 3 tbsp jam

    mmm... mmm....went a little overboard on the beer, but my buddies and I whom haven't hung out in quite a while, as I have a girlfriend, were playing some drinking games, so I kept going. Bah, cardio tomorrow to make up? umm...NO!
    Last edited by heathj; 04-01-2005 at 04:02 PM.

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    You're new to the refeeding concept aren't you?


    Want me to change your journal title to something more appropriate?

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    Galileo is the patron saint of refeeds...his wisdom is invaluable on the topic.

    ...btw, what kinda beer?
    May you be in heaven an hour before the devil knows you're dead.

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    Haha Yeah Gal, to like "Alcoholic trying to ud2"
    Pup, about 1 mgd, 6-7 budweisers and 1 pabst tallboy...I wanted a few lagunitas, but i guess it was a cheap beer night.

    28 HOUR REFEED CONTINUED -
    3 cups raisin bran w/ 1 1/2 cups milk
    5g creatine
    1 onion bagel
    3 potatoes w/ 3 tbsp ketchup and some salt
    3/4 cup munchies
    emerald city smoothie mega mass (5g fat/45g pro/169g carbs) + chocolate
    +10g creatine
    8 oz. pasta w/ 1 cup sauce
    5g creatine
    3 cups raisin bran w/ 1 cup milk
    2 slices bread
    40g cheddar cheese
    1 slice turkey

    REFEED TOTALS: 1499g carbs/71g fat/253g protein + a few chips and salsa...
    Last edited by heathj; 04-02-2005 at 01:51 AM.

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    refeed over...power workout tomorrow.

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    Dammit, I need to get me some Raisin Bran for my next carb load, that stuff is great.
    "It is often said, mainly by the "no-contests", that although there is no positive evidence for the existence of God, nor is there evidence against his existence. So it is best to keep an open mind and be agnostic. At first sight that seems an unassailable position, at least in the weak sense of Pascal's wager. But on second thought it seems a cop-out, because the same could be said of Father Christmas and tooth fairies. There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?"

    Richard Dawkins


    "Out of all of the sects in the world, we notice an uncanny coincidence: the overwhelming majority just happen to choose the one that their parents belong to. Not the sect that has the best evidence in its favour, the best miracles, the best moral code, the best cathedral, the best stained glass, the best music: when it comes to choosing from the smorgasbord of available religions, their potential virtues seem to count for nothing, compared to the matter of heredity. This is an unmistakable fact; nobody could seriously deny it. Yet people with full knowledge of the arbitrary nature of this heredity, somehow manage to go on believing in their religion, often with such fanaticism that they are prepared to murder people who follow a different one."


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    Paul Stagg

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    47g carbs per cup

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    Saturday, April 2, 2005
    Power Workout

    Conventional Deadlifts: WU, 295 x 5, 325 x 5, 365 x 4 (Haven't gone this high since I pulled my pirifomis)
    Flat DB Bench: WU, 100 x 5, 110 x 5, 110 x 5! (Felt pretty easy, but still tough)
    Front Squats: WU, 185 x 5, 185 x 5, 195 x 5 (195 is the highest I've ever gone)
    DB Shrugs: 120 x 6, 130 x 6, 130 x 6 (Damn this hurts my hands)
    Clean + Press: WU, 135 x 5, 155 x 5, 155 x 5 (155 is the highest I've gone with these)

    Diet
    Meal 1 - 2 english muffins, 1 whole egg, 2 egg whites, 1 scoop protein, 1 tbsp jam, 2g fish oil
    Meal 2 - 3/4 cup rice, 240g chicken, couple tbsp sauce w/ tabasco
    Meal 3 - Prior to workout: 15g protein/30g gatorade
    During Workout: 60g sugar energy drink
    Meal 4 - PostWorkout: 1/2 banana, 1.5 scoops protein, 3/4 cup milk, 1 tbsp pb

    Rest of the day I dunno? But so far macros are: 217g carbs/120g protein/24g fat ---Try to get 350-400g carbs, 210g protein, 50g fat

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