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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Sugar in Fruit...

    Is the sugar that fruit has bad for you like other products high in sugar or is it good since fruit is natural(im talking about fresh fruit not canned)?

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    Sugar in fruit = Fructose. That is better quality sugar then refined sugar you find in coke, candy, etc.
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    so is it ok to have like 1to2peices of fruit threw out the day if ur not getting as much exercise b/c i like my fruit but i had to stop lifting b/c of an injury

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    something like cottage cheese would work right?

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    fruit is good for you, and the sugar is not as bad as refined sugar. Fructose has the lowest GI of all the sugars, so really there isn't any fruit that is going to cause an insunlin spike (except for dates, which have a GI of like 100). The highest GI of the "regular" fruits are bananas and raisins, which are like 55-60, which is only a little bit higher than old fashioned oatmeal.

    Fruit also has vitamins, fiber, and replenishes liver glycogen (which I heard somewhere is important, but honestly I don't know why.)

    Anyway, I wouldn't eat tons of the stuff, but I'd say like 2-3 pieces a day is fine.

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    I think what nito meant was that since it's fructose, it doesn't cause a rise in insulin after consumption. I dont know about 'better quality' though...

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    Cottage cheese would be perfect.

    Fructose is taken up preferentially by liver glycogen.

    Pop is sweetened with high fructose corn syrup, and there’s a LOT of it.

    Because fructose is taken up preferentially by liver glycogen, large quantities of fructose are undesirable. Your body doesn’t recognize the difference between fructose in coca cola and fructose in fruit, but there isn’t THAT much in a few pieces of fruit, and the fruit has redeeming healthful properties, where the pop does not.

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    Mmm..I've got to get me some apples.

    I eat my fruit with a meal. Fruit alone gives me the 'growlies'.

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    refined sugars are not good for us

    they contain many other chemicals including bleach

    anything processed is inferior to something 100% natural

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiViNa99
    Fruit alone gives me the 'growlies'.
    I just had one of those myself, after a smoothie

    thankfully I have a huge slab of chicken sizzling on the foreman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built
    Cottage cheese would be perfect.

    Fructose is taken up preferentially by liver glycogen.

    Pop is sweetened with high fructose corn syrup, and there’s a LOT of it.

    Because fructose is taken up preferentially by liver glycogen, large quantities of fructose are undesirable. Your body doesn’t recognize the difference between fructose in coca cola and fructose in fruit, but there isn’t THAT much in a few pieces of fruit, and the fruit has redeeming healthful properties, where the pop does not.
    There you go - very good answer.

    I will add that whole fruits containing at least some fiber or a nice mineral profile are your best bet. I stick with apples, berries, and the occasional orange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holto
    refined sugars are not good for us
    Not always true.

    Refined dextrose and maltodextrin can be very good for you - IF taken during the anabolic window post-workout, to stimulate an insulin spike and hasten muscle repair and growth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built
    Refined dextrose and maltodextrin can be very good for you - IF taken during the anabolic window post-workout, to stimulate an insulin spike and hasten muscle repair and growth.
    that dosen't mean that the toxic chemicals they contain are any better for us

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    oh and I use dex and malto

    any other time I use sugar, like to make bars, I use succanat

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    wait what's GI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holto
    that dosen't mean that the toxic chemicals they contain are any better for us
    Which toxic chemicals would those be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holto
    refined sugars are not good for us

    they contain many other chemicals including bleach

    anything processed is inferior to something 100% natural
    At what concentration, 1 part per billion. It's hardly a concern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Built
    Which toxic chemicals would those be?
    there are about 300 of them used in the various processes of refinement

    and I did specifically mention bleach

    would you drink a glass of chlorine bleach ?

    have you ever read an article about refined sugar or done any research ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holto
    there are about 300 of them used in the various processes of refinement

    and I did specifically mention bleach

    would you drink a glass of chlorine bleach ?

    have you ever read an article about refined sugar or done any research ?
    I find your argument to be quite non sequitor there. Comparing refined suger consumption to drinking a glass of bleach? Laughable at best.

    I heard that in 1979 stocks went through the roof, just so happens that year skirts got dramatically shorter. Should i draw a correlation?


    Man with all the refined products ive eaten in my life (sugar, bread, etc)....youd think my hair would be blonde by now! *looks up* yup, still DARK brown.

    Let me guess, you probably also believe that eating aspartame will give you alzheimers right? Or eating nutrasweet is like enbalming yourself right?


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    Ok in all seriousness, how much refined sugar do you think one would have to eat in ONE sitting.....to equal drinking a glass of bleach? If that right there doesnt put things into perspective then let me ask you a question. DO you carry a personal breathign apparatus whereever you go? Just walking downt he street and breathign the exhaust fumes from burning fossil fuels is more dangerous than the amount of bleach youd ingest from a Big Mac Meal from Mcdonalds! heh.

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    Shansen, this is what I was thinking.

    Besides, just because a chemical is used in a process doesn't mean it remains.

    Bleach? What kind - chlorine? Same stuff that's in salt?
    Okey dokey.

    Besides, Holto already said he consumes dextrose, didn't he?

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    Anyways, the health benefits of eating fruit greatly outweight the negative impact to your diet. I eat 2-3 cups of fresh fruit salad almost every day, bulking or cutting.

    Volume-wise, it's actually quite impressive too. 2 cups of fruit salad should help fill you up pretty good, and contains only around 40g carbs.
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