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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Barbell curl technique...

    Is it acceptable to sorta 'swing' the first curl into action, and use the motion from that to get through the rest of the curls? Or should the first curl be done purely lifting the barbell from the down position to the up position?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich
    Is it acceptable to sorta 'swing' the first curl into action, and use the motion from that to get through the rest of the curls? Or should the first curl be done purely lifting the barbell from the down position to the up position?
    The whole idea is to recruit as much muscle fibre as possible and give it a kick in the head so that it adapts to suit the exercise load. If your swinging then your using momentum instead of muscle fibres at the difficult point which is probably where you recruit the most muscle fibres so its bad imo for pure muscle hypertrophy.

    For explosive training it might be aright though maybe doing lots of sets and reps like that ie crossfit style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich
    Is it acceptable to sorta 'swing' the first curl into actionposition?

    Depends on whether or not you are bothered by wasting your time in the gym.

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    What muscle are you trying to work?

    Strick form- nails the bi's, forearms
    Swing form- doens't really nail anything just a combo of lower back, shoulders, legs, bi's, forearms

    There's a reason there's form, to protect your body from getting hurt and to target the muscles you are trying to work better. The best bodybuilders I've known never cared what weight they were moving as long as they moved it correctly. Young guys would grab the bench next to them and move sometimes 50% or even twice as much as them with horrible form but only had 13 inch arms, while my buddies where running around 18.

    If swing is too much a problem the top of your movement probably is as well. Try this...stand next to a wall and put your back and elbows against it. Now curl the weight up and don't move you back or your elbows from the wall. Welcome to correct form. Curl this way and your arms will explode.

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    I don't think there's anything wrong with using a little swing if you're doing a heavy set, it helps to break through curl plateaus. You don't want to make this your form for all sets, but cheating sometimes can actually help progression in this exersise IMO.

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    I've been mostly doing strict form for all exercises until recently. I had a go at being a bit more bouncy and it really helped with intensity if you ask me. It seemed to help with motivation. Felt like I totalled my calves too. By bouncy I mean like in a curl I'd explode it from the bottom with a bit of elbow movement, not swinging my hips.

    Once I get going after a rep or two, I usually do some slower perfectly controlled reps, and finish off with a fairly poor rep where I'm busting a gut.

    Try it, as long as your not cheating just to look cool with a heavy weight. It doesnt impress anyone, it is hilarious seeing a skinny guy swinging a heavy barbell around like he's humping it. :-)
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    I consider swinging to be cheating. Using your momentum to swing the bar towards your chest is basically using less wieght - not to mention horrible form, and potentially dangerous.

    Quote Originally Posted by spencerjrus
    Depends on whether or not you are bothered by wasting your time in the gym.
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    Bit of swing is fine. Especially when you start to go heavy.

    You some time have to swing a bit to stop the weight pulling you over. If you holding loads like 80% plus of your bodyweight. Try and hold the weight in the horizantol postion. the weight will pull you over. unless your leaning back.
    okay no one is suggesting you keep the weight going that slow. But a little swing of the back will help you to prevent this.

    watching vidoe of some of the biggest and strongest BB there form is not what is considered perfect. Lots do not mind using body english. As long as you swing the same amount as before. then you progress your gains. you should be fine.
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    "Once I get going after a rep or two, I usually do some slower perfectly controlled reps, and finish off with a fairly poor rep where I'm busting a gut."

    This is me^ Actually, the first swing is all I really need. As soon as the bar is up to my shoulders I can pretty much go as slow/controlled as I like. God knows why that would be, but that seems to be the case.

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    I never swing on any movement. I concentrate especially hard on using good form in biceps exercises because my bis are one of my better muscle groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rich
    "Once I get going after a rep or two, I usually do some slower perfectly controlled reps, and finish off with a fairly poor rep where I'm busting a gut."

    This is me^ Actually, the first swing is all I really need. As soon as the bar is up to my shoulders I can pretty much go as slow/controlled as I like. God knows why that would be, but that seems to be the case.
    I would think that once you get the bar to the top of the lift and then lower it down you are creating a stretch reflex in your biceps at the bottom which will contribute to the 2nd and subsequent upward lifts. This is similar to squatting or barbell benching.

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    You can swing... then as time progress minimize your swing until you're not swinging anymore. This is like doing partial rep for bench... load more weight than your 1RM and go 1/2 way down. For your next workout go lower and lower until reaching proper depth.

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    Another way i like to take the swing out is to lie down and do straight bar cable curl. Just plant your elbows to yourside or the floor (whichever you can do). Then just squeeze our reps.

    (sorry about the double post.)

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    Curl with your back on the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HahnB
    I don't think there's anything wrong with using a little swing if you're doing a heavy set, it helps to break through curl plateaus. You don't want to make this your form for all sets, but cheating sometimes can actually help progression in this exersise IMO.
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    Trust me. You need to let your body move naturally during barbell curls. Not a pronounced swing but a natural movement during the lift. Strict form is not necessary to see gains.

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    I use strict form until I can no longer curl the weight. Then, I might use a little swing to get one or two extra reps.
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    i did db curls with my chest on the skinny part of a doorway/opening to a room for months (when i wasnt lifting seriously) so i would have correct form. funny thing is how quickly i mastered the form when i had to switch to a bar when this year started.

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