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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    ratio for bulking diet?

    What ratio of fat/carbs/protien is recommended for a bulking diet? Should I try to eat as clean as possible or take in the occasional junk food? Basically am I better off with more calories with some junk food or slightly less with a cleaner diet? I'm thinking about ordering pizza tonight

    To give you an idea the last 2 days have been:

    2426 cals 92fat/242carbs/159protien
    2599 cals 68fat/332carbs/157protien

    I'm currently 6'0 150lbs, I believe i was eating around 2000/day before and I'm aiming for 2500/day now.
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    2,500 isnt much at all for a bulk diet even at your weight. you should be eating about 3, 000. As for the ratio, its kinda up to you, and how well your body processes carbs. Some ppl can eat a lot and not get fat, some cant. Lots of people recomment 50% carbs, 30% protein, 20% fat. Start there and tweek it depending on how you feel you process carbs.

    It is good to eat as clean as possibly, but occasionaly you need a cheat day to keep your sanity, say once a week.

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    Isocaloric works well for me

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    The ratios arent too important as long as you have an overall calorie surplus. Some general guidelines would be to get 1-1.5g protein per pound of bodyweight. For you that would be about 150-200g. Your fat intake should be 30%. After that, fill the rest of your diet with carbs.
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    At 150 pounds an occasional pizza will not kill you while on a bulk either, enjoy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pruneman
    The ratios arent too important as long as you have an overall calorie surplus. Some general guidelines would be to get 1-1.5g protein per pound of bodyweight. For you that would be about 150-200g. Your fat intake should be 30%. After that, fill the rest of your diet with carbs.
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    I manipulate the fat-to-carb ratio in my diet for satiety. Protein is always high.

    If I'm trying to eat MORE, I drop the fats a bit because lower-fat makes me hungrier. If I'm cutting, I up the fats because it's easier to feel fed longer. I never go much lower than about 30-35% of cals from fat though - good fats are good for your body, period.

    In either event, I keep protein in the 1-1.5g/pound range, usually closer to 1.5g per pound.

    Treat fat as a caloric ballast. Bulking or cutting, protein and carbs are the major players in the muscle game.

    My .02

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    Thanks for the advice. I had some pizza, 5 slices of an 8 slice pizza. I used the nutritional info from the pizza comany's website for Fitday. It came to 1900 cals, 70g fat, 195carbs and 160g of protien! Does that sound high to anyone or is it just me? Assuming its right I practically hit my protien goal just from the pizza itself, oh it was a sicilian meats pizza if that helps heres the link to the info:

    http://www.papajohns.com/menu/produc...lianmeats.html

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    I would probably still eat other sources of protein. A pizza shouldn't be your sole source of calories, at least in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vypergts
    I had some pizza, 5 slices of an 8 slice pizza. I used the nutritional info from the pizza comany's website for Fitday. It came to 1900 cals, 70g fat, 195carbs and 160g of protien! Does that sound high to anyone or is it just me?
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    I tend to go for 40/40/30 - protein, carbs and fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Clough
    I tend to go for 40/40/30 - protein, carbs and fat.
    110% eh Daniel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Clough
    I tend to go for 40/40/30 - protein, carbs and fat.
    Pops always told me to give'r 110% too.
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    After a little more time with the diet I find daily I have to fight to keep my fat in the low 30%s. I usually wind up eating a lot of starches late in the day too, rice/potatoes etc. to try to get a lot of calories without fat. I'm just worried if I ignore fat I'll wind up putting too much on Am I better off letting my fat % wander up into the 40s range to get in more calories or fighting to keep it low?

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    anyone?

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    30% is good as long as you are getting around 80g a day (good fats, not saturated) or more depending on your LBM. Otherwise, you will probably want to up the percentage if you aren't making that figure.
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    I like higher fats, personally.

    And saturated fats can be good fats - TRANS fats, on the other hand, are plastic.

    No margarine, no shortening, no crappy peanutbutter.

    Stick to healthy, natural fats (olive oil, avocadoes, natty PB, nuts, butter) and you should be fine.

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    I try to avoid more than 15g-20g a day of saturated because it sticks to my chest and ass like white on rice.
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