Ok, I think there a few other things that were missed, like officers and the private security force totally missing him in the first place, but this really bugs me. Both my parents came over as illegal but they made a serious effort to learn english. They knew it was important and they made sure when I was gowing up that they spoke to me in both english and spanish, emphasizing english.Chen said his pleas using the intercom were answered, but that the language barrier was too great.
If a person is going to come to the US, illegal or not, then they really need to learn to speak english. I honestly thought it was just a problem with some hispanics but it seems to be a problem with all immigrants from non english speaking countries.
I agree.. but why should they bother when we pander to their needs so much?
How long has he been in the US? Maybe years, maybe days.Originally Posted by Max-Mex
Besides: maybe the one with the language deficiency wasn't him, but the person on the other side of the intercom.
because in the article it said that he spoke through a translator... I dont think the security forces (who i dont know HOW missed him) is required to know chinese for his job description.
I agree, that when people come over here they need to really try to make an effort. If the guy was delivering food, then he has to have been there long enough to set up a life there, he should have been able to get nessecary phrases out.
I dont say this as an arrogant american. when I moved to germany I made an honest effort to let the culture sink in and learn the language in about 2 months I knew enough to get by so people could understand me. granted it took 2 years before fluency but in the first couple of months I got all the major words and phrases.
now I'm learning Manderin for when I go over there. I think if anyone goes to a foreign country to visit and most definitely LIVE, they should try to speak that countries language. its only more apparent in the U.S. because we're a melting pot.
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I agree completly... it's also a matter of common sense... I mean going into a country and not understanding the language is just looking for problems...Originally Posted by crazedwombat
What I don't understand is how the security cameras missed him and why no one tried getting into that elevator if the guy was pushing the emergency button repeatedly... Those two are just beyond me.
As far as not speaking english- it doesn't say how long he's been in the country so I'm not sure how much language skills he should be expected to have. Generally when people make no effort to learn the language of the host country I consider that a sign of disrespect. My family made sure to learn english as quickly as possible when we came here.
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How the **** is this even possible? First off, if an elevator is not scheduled to be on service, and is stuck for more than a couple hours people in a building would start ranting, security would notice, etc. For 80 ****ing hours? And then they say on monday, maintenance checked the elevator and missed him? Is this elevator akin to the Tardis from Doctor Who? How the hell do you "miss" someone? I guess it means the maintenance guys couldn't fix the problem, and just left the elevator there, but still, 80 ****ing hours.Even maintenance workers who were called to check out the disabled elevator on Monday missed Chen, police said.
I guess also, that having an elevator stuck for 80 hours, with emergency calls being made from it, wouldn't clue anyone in to the fact that someone might be in there...
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hahahaOriginally Posted by VasDeferens
if they are really wanting to come to the us, then I would think they would take the time to learn a couple english phrases, and atleast to count. If i was an immigrant, and was wanting to migrate to the us, then that would be the first thing that would be on my mind... it would only be beneficial towards that person.
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True. But security guards here often also have a hard time understanding Dutch. Most of them are immigrants who's only job prospect is being night watchman -- because then they don't have to deal with people.Originally Posted by crazedwombat