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    Smith Machine

    How do you figure your one rep max using the smith machine?

    My lifting partner quit and i have no spotter at 2:30AM.

    I can lift a lot more on the smith machine, is this normal?

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    i don't care what it is on the smith machine.

    it's just that i would like to track my progress and since i have no spotter i am not going to just throw 20 pounds more than i have ever done and take a chance.

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    Everyone can lift more on the smith.

    You also didn`t mention what type of lift you are doing on that stupid machine. Regardless, it makes not the least bit of difference what your 1rep max is on that thing. Use it if you have to (since you have no spotter) but save your 1rm for free weights on a day you have your spotter....And, while you`re at it, continue to use free weights (lighter so you don`t need a spotter) just to make sure you continue to use your stabilizer muscles in proper form.

    Btw, if you are talking about using the smith for squats, don`t worry about a spotter. Just use the cage, and set the safety pins high enough that you can dump the barbell if you have to.

    Matter of fact, do the same thing for bench press. Drag the bench into the cage, and set the safety pins at, or just above chest level. Then lift, and dump if need be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllusiveDream
    i don't care what it is on the smith machine.

    it's just that i would like to track my progress and since i have no spotter i am not going to just throw 20 pounds more than i have ever done and take a chance.

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    be analog, not digital. increase the weight gradually by adding 2.5 lbs plate each side if you cannot judge your capacity.

    Dont add 20lbs at once if you think you cannot handle it.

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    i was talking about using it for bench press etc...

    I never thought about using the cage for bench press. duh I will have to use it tomorrow thanks.

    Some of you really don't like the smith machine i take it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllusiveDream
    i was talking about using it for bench press etc...

    I never thought about using the cage for bench press. duh I will have to use it tomorrow thanks.

    Some of you really don't like the smith machine i take it.

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    the reason alot of ppl dont like it is because it does not use the same stabalizing muscles, also a 1rm is bull**** on it because all smith machines have pulleys that work a little different, so It means nothing....only real way to track a 1rm is by doing it with freeweight
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    I use the smith for low incline BB press, i like it. I only use it though because the incline on the free weights is too high for my liking. I also do flat barbell, flat dumbell, and incline dumbell with free weights though, so stabilizers are doing just fine.

    Its ok to use the smith, just dont rely on it for everything having to do with chest.

    Side note: Dont your free weight benches in your gym have those safety hooks? If you cant get the weight all the way up just drop it halfway or so on the other set of hooks. Just dont drop the weight on your head while tryign to do so lol.
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    Unless your a competitive powerlifter I really dont understand the benefit of even knowing your one rep max, and even then most powerlifters dont do one rep maxes very often. Seems like alot of wasted effort and potential for injury. Progress in your normal rep range is a great way to track.

    Ask someone to spot you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smalls
    Unless your a competitive powerlifter I really dont understand the benefit of even knowing your one rep max, and even then most powerlifters dont do one rep maxes very often. Seems like alot of wasted effort and potential for injury. Progress in your normal rep range is a great way to track.

    Ask someone to spot you.
    Exactly, i never max. I judge my progress by what im repping out that week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neartaigh
    Everyone can lift more on the smith.

    You also didn`t mention what type of lift you are doing on that stupid machine. Regardless, it makes not the least bit of difference what your 1rep max is on that thing. Use it if you have to (since you have no spotter) but save your 1rm for free weights on a day you have your spotter....And, while you`re at it, continue to use free weights (lighter so you don`t need a spotter) just to make sure you continue to use your stabilizer muscles in proper form.

    Btw, if you are talking about using the smith for squats, don`t worry about a spotter. Just use the cage, and set the safety pins high enough that you can dump the barbell if you have to.

    Matter of fact, do the same thing for bench press. Drag the bench into the cage, and set the safety pins at, or just above chest level. Then lift, and dump if need be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shansen008
    Exactly, i never max. I judge my progress by what im repping out that week.
    great advise
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllusiveDream
    How do you figure your one rep max using the smith machine?

    My lifting partner quit and i have no spotter at 2:30AM.

    I can lift a lot more on the smith machine, is this normal?

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    sorry to bring this up, but why on earth are you lifting at 2:30am?
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    I work from 5:00 AM to 6-7PM depending on the day and if i don't go before work i won't go at all. The wife would like to see me at home for supper too.

    I manage a business that couldn't hire competent assistants if it tried.

    I did use the cage so that i could go a little heavier without worry. It worked out pretty well.

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    Just ask someone else in the gym. And if there isn't anybody there, ask one of the gym staff. They can't be very busy if the place is empty.

    Anyone can spot if you take a bit of time explaining what you want them to do first. Even on 1rm attempts at most you will need 5-10 lbs of additional support if failing, so doesn't matter who it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllusiveDream
    How do you figure your one rep max using the smith machine?

    My lifting partner quit and i have no spotter at 2:30AM.

    I can lift a lot more on the smith machine, is this normal?

    Thanks
    Dustin
    why not just use normal bench?

    I do not understand why people always think the smith machine is safer. if you get stuck under a bar on normal bench press. you can roll it down you. you can't do this on a smith machine.
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    The gym i use is 24hr access. There is only an attendant there from 10AM to 6PM.

    The gym is empty when i am there.

    I used the cage and it worked pretty well so i will probably continue using that for right now.

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