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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Shoulders!

    For some reason I have a heck of a time training these things. Im doing WBB1 and they seem to be lagging a tad.
    Also on that note, for DB presses, should I go till my elbow is 90degrees or as low as possible???

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    shrugs with a trap bar....will def. boost those shoulders....but don't roll when the muscles contract....will lead to injury later on...

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    Yeah I read alot about that, some guy at the gym told me it was ok to do that...I just looked at him and shook my head.
    And on that note I wasnt talking about shrugs

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    I take dumbell presses, for bench, or whatever else I'm doing, to the same point I would take a barbell.
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    Arnie presses rule my world.

    Try them, supersetted with lateral raises.

    REALLY hits the laterals when they're pre-exhausted from the Arnies.

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    what are those?

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    I've been doing arnold press, but it feels so awkward, and I have trouble getting the dumbells into position. I can shoulder press more than my biceps can accomodate.
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    i will, i will...

    *goes off to sulk*
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    I just switched to arnies from DB press.. so far so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built
    Arnie presses rule my world.

    Try them, supersetted with lateral raises.

    REALLY hits the anteriors when they're pre-exhausted from the Arnies.
    I thought lateral raises only hit lateral delts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by twm5993
    I just switched to arnies from DB press.. so far so good.
    hey man is your back still hurting? I guess may be arnold press is good, considering that you use less weight and more ROM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by METALASIAN
    I thought lateral raises only hit lateral delts?
    You're right. I meant laterals, but for some stupid reason typed anterior.
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNL
    hey man is your back still hurting? I guess may be arnold press is good, considering that you use less weight and more ROM.
    It is a little tweaked but its much better since I switched to arnies. I think somehow getting the weight into position for DB OH press was somehow causing me to shift my back in ways it shouldn't. When I get setup for arnies, I can just push the weight up with my knees into the top of a bicep curl position and its good times from there.

    But yes, I am definitely not doing DB presses anymore. Arnorld presses have a much better stretch/ROM to me and I feel more worked after I'm done.
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    Arnold Press's are nice.. but I"m thinking of trying a push/pull routine, so Arnold Press's and Lat Raises wouldn't be on the same day. Would this still be effective? (I know that defeats the purpose of supersetting)
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    I tried Arnolds a couple weeks ago and I have to say I was impressed, I think I need to move the weight up though.

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