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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #1
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    Max lifts and weight

    Just curious as to how much your weight has to do with your max lifts. Let me know guys, cheers.
    Failure is a privelage reserved for those who do not try hard enough

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    You want us to list our weight vs max lifts?

    Or want to know if your weight plays a role in how much you lift?

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    It is all relative to how strong you are and how long you have been training,body composition,training routine diet ect.I have seen some really small guys lift heaps more than some big muscular guys but what does this mean?
    Stop contemplating! Just get on with it!

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    I forgot to add that it should not matter what everyone else can lift but only that you are training with the right intensity,technique and within your own limits.Your only challenge when progressing with your lifts should be with yourself and no one else.
    Stop contemplating! Just get on with it!

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    Great example is a kid who weighed 200+ lbs in my conditioning class in highschool who could barely lift 115 lbs on flat bench.

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    But, with proper training and average mechanics, the bigger lifter will lift bigger poundages.



    *needs to listen to that and eat*
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    it also has a lot to do with biomechanics and leverage anvantages. Thats one of the reasons some of these smaller guys can lift as much as people carrying much more musce mass.

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    Its really everything listed.

    Mass plays a role-- more muscle can lead to more weight lifted, but there seems to be an optimal level of hypertrophy for any given person, and even by muscle group. However, few if any have reached that stage, so that's not a concern.

    Neuromuscular efficiency is another primary concern. Its the main reason I can lift as much as I can at my body weight.

    Biomechanics seems to be one of the more trivial reasonings unless you're at the highest level of a sport. True, it can have an impact on some of the compound movements, ie, a person can be built to deadlift and not squat, and vice versa. For some odd reason, I'm a good deadlifter and a good bencher, but my squat sucks (comparatively).
    Vin Diesel has a fever.. and the only prescription is more cowbell.

    Budiak: That girl I maced
    Budiak: macked
    Budiak: heh maced
    Budiak: I wish

    ShmrckPmp5: a good thing people can't fire guns through the computer...your ass would have been shot years ago

    Y2A 47: youre smooth as hell
    Y2A 47: thats why you get outta tickets, and into panties

    galileo: you're a fucking beast and I hate you
    galileo: hate

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    A lot of it has to do with technique as well. That could be thought of as biomechanics partially though.

    Example,
    you have me struggling with 200 lbs on the bench and than a couple benches down you have a kid who is slightly smaller than me benching 250 lbs.

    Is it the amount of muscle mass? the neuromuscular efficiency? the persons biomechanics? or is it the fact that his ass is 5 feet in the air?

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    Technique really falls under the neuromuscular category.

    If his ass is 5 feet in the air, then he *isn't* "benching" 250.
    Vin Diesel has a fever.. and the only prescription is more cowbell.

    Budiak: That girl I maced
    Budiak: macked
    Budiak: heh maced
    Budiak: I wish

    ShmrckPmp5: a good thing people can't fire guns through the computer...your ass would have been shot years ago

    Y2A 47: youre smooth as hell
    Y2A 47: thats why you get outta tickets, and into panties

    galileo: you're a fucking beast and I hate you
    galileo: hate

    assgrabbers are never subtile, they will grabb ass whereever they go,public or not, I know the type, because I am one. - Rock

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    and he's got the bar burried 6in into his chest as he bounces it off.

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    "Great example is a kid who weighed 200+ lbs in my conditioning class in highschool who could barely lift 115 lbs on flat bench."

    hey dont talk shiat about 200 lbs peeps who cant bench 115 mmk?

    <------ feels offended

    im currently 199 lbs, i dumbbell press 7x107 lbs....
    lifts are rising up nicely though.

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    dumbell press and barbell press are completely different as far as weight lifted. how much you bench with barbell?

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    i know yall are gonna think im an alien or something but i never did barbell bench presses.

    I used to do smith though until i was converted to this sites smith hating cult i do know i can smith quite some more than db press
    Last edited by Reinier; 12-03-2001 at 11:01 AM.

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    *joins Smith-hating Cult*
    Vin Diesel has a fever.. and the only prescription is more cowbell.

    Budiak: That girl I maced
    Budiak: macked
    Budiak: heh maced
    Budiak: I wish

    ShmrckPmp5: a good thing people can't fire guns through the computer...your ass would have been shot years ago

    Y2A 47: youre smooth as hell
    Y2A 47: thats why you get outta tickets, and into panties

    galileo: you're a fucking beast and I hate you
    galileo: hate

    assgrabbers are never subtile, they will grabb ass whereever they go,public or not, I know the type, because I am one. - Rock

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    i think ill do an 8 rep max barbell bench press tomorrow.
    just wanna know.

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    Im great at squats and benching, but my deadlift...... o man..... lol, i try so hard, but no....
    Chris Mason is my master.....

    American cars are like fat people, sure, they have a lot of power, but they're not built well, and they have all that useless weight, plus they make both make funny noises.

    feel free to aim me, nejar462 im on a lot. Don't know much to warn you dudes, but im good at conversations.

    Belial in reference to Ronnie Coleman, "Some people say he still has blood in his steroid stream, but I doubt it. Gas isn't one of the side effects, but that massive bloated overly muscular freak of nature circus sideshow appearance might be what tips most people off."

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    I'm the exact opposite Nejar. At least you have two good lifts.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Originally posted by Reinier
    im currently 199 lbs, i dumbbell press 7x107 lbs....
    lifts are rising up nicely though.
    How do you have 107lbs dumbbells? I though they went by 5's. ex 100 105 110 115

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    lol yeah my lbs poundages are fucked up cuz they are translated from kilograms.
    i dumbbell press 24 kg dumbs
    1 lbs is 454 gr right?

    the dumbs are in all even numbers of kilos.
    20-22-24-26 etc

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    Latman r u like really short?
    that could explain dead bigger than other lifts...
    im pretty tall and i have to reach down so far n ****.

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    i got no squat rack, but i can free weight hack squat pretty good, and DL, and BP, and my weight is low

    i cant bench to to low of a ROM cuz i got some long hands its annoying
    "The whole jedi thing was just not compatible with my lifestyle. My master was jelous he was always holding me back, -"be mindfull of the future, but live in the present"- what the hell does that mean? I even got my arm cut off...it just sucked. So i switched to the dark side and i havent looked back once...Now i am shooting lightning from my fingertips, choking people over the phone, i even get to wear a cape.....its just boss. My name is Anikin skywalker and i am a sith lord."

    "i have the sex drive of 10 rabbits on viagra"

    age: 19
    height: 5'8'' (im lieing its probably 5'7'')
    weight: 159-165 lbs (morning and day)
    bodyfat: 8.6
    bench:315
    squat:405
    Deadlift:500

    goals for end of the year 405/500/600 at 170-175(with the 8pack)

    other: dips 3 and a quarter plates for 4 reps

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    Long *hands*? Exactly what does that have to do with benching?
    Vin Diesel has a fever.. and the only prescription is more cowbell.

    Budiak: That girl I maced
    Budiak: macked
    Budiak: heh maced
    Budiak: I wish

    ShmrckPmp5: a good thing people can't fire guns through the computer...your ass would have been shot years ago

    Y2A 47: youre smooth as hell
    Y2A 47: thats why you get outta tickets, and into panties

    galileo: you're a fucking beast and I hate you
    galileo: hate

    assgrabbers are never subtile, they will grabb ass whereever they go,public or not, I know the type, because I am one. - Rock

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    Latty is like 5'1

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    He's actually an Oompa-Loompa. How else do you explain the green hair and pinstripe overalls?
    Vin Diesel has a fever.. and the only prescription is more cowbell.

    Budiak: That girl I maced
    Budiak: macked
    Budiak: heh maced
    Budiak: I wish

    ShmrckPmp5: a good thing people can't fire guns through the computer...your ass would have been shot years ago

    Y2A 47: youre smooth as hell
    Y2A 47: thats why you get outta tickets, and into panties

    galileo: you're a fucking beast and I hate you
    galileo: hate

    assgrabbers are never subtile, they will grabb ass whereever they go,public or not, I know the type, because I am one. - Rock

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