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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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  1. #1
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    John's Quest for Muscle!

    Hello, lets start this off right I suppose.

    My name is John, I live in Hardin Co., KY.

    I drive a 1997 T-Bird that is modified.. I bowl, play golf, etc.

    Anyways, why I am here:

    I am tired of being weak. Looking around and seeing most guys are bigger, stronger, and better looking. So I am here to do something about it!

    These pictures were taken on 5/15/2005.

    More to come tomorrow about my workout schedule.


    If you have ANY SUGGESTIONS, COMMENTS, ETC. Please email me @ thunderbirdlx@gmail.com or just reply here!! I am open to ANYTHING. As I am learning this step by step.
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    Last edited by John04Civic; 05-15-2005 at 08:11 PM.
    Squat = Not enough
    DL = Not enough
    Bench = Not enough

    Big 3 = Not enough

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    I dont see any pics. ??. Good luck though. Its tough.

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    what is your workout program like? and your diet? good luck with everything...but give us more details as to what your plan is.

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    Training Schedule

    Sorry,

    Sure lets hit the details tonight..

    Monday - Chest and Upper Back

    As of May 9th, 2005

    ===Dumbell Press

    Set 1: 30@10
    Set 2: 45@10
    Set 3: 45@9

    (Note: This is with a 30 / 45 lb dumbell in EACH HAND)

    ===Incline Dumbell Press

    Set 1: 25@10
    Set 2: 25@10
    Set 3: 35@10

    ===Bent over Row (DBs)

    Set 1: 30@10
    Set 2: 40@10
    Set 3: 40@10

    ===Rear Deltoid Lift (bar)

    Set 1: 45@10
    Set 2: 55@10
    Set 3: 55@10

    ===Rowing (Machine)

    Set 1: 60@10
    Set 2: 90@10
    Set 3: 90@10

    Tuesday - Legs

    As of May 10th, 2005

    Squats

    Set 1: 115@10
    Set 2: 115@10
    Set 3: 115@10
    Set 4: 145@4

    Wall Sits

    Set 1: 25 Secs
    Set 2: 30 Secs
    Set 3: 39 Secs

    Inverted Leg Press Machine

    90 @ 10
    100 @ 10
    100 @ 10

    Calf raise Machine

    195 @ 10
    225 @ 10
    255 @ 10

    Weds. - Arms / Torso

    As of May 11th, 2005

    ===Curls (note: I use the straight 45 lbs. bar, not the EZ Curl Bar)

    Set 1: 65@10
    Set 2: 65@10
    Set 3: 75@10
    Set 4: 95@2
    Set 5: 75@5

    ===Back Extension

    Set 1: 25@10
    Set 2: 25@10
    Set 3: 35@10

    ===Skull Crushers

    Set 1: 45@10
    Set 2: 45@10
    Set 3: 45@10

    ===Pulldown (Tris)

    Set 1: 40@10
    Set 2: 60@10
    Set 3: 60@10

    ===Hanging Leg Raises

    4 Sets at 10 Reps each.

    Thursday - Shoulders and Chest

    Military Press

    45@10
    55@10
    55@10

    Front Raise ( XX @ 10 where XX = weight of EACH dumbell)

    10 @ 10
    20 @ 10
    20 @ 10

    Lateral Shoulder

    45@10
    55@10
    55@10

    Dumbell Press

    30@10
    40@10
    45@10
    45@10

    Incline DB Press

    25@10
    30@10
    35@10

    Butterfly

    20@10
    25@8

    DIET

    As of right now. I printed the list of what a bodybuilder should eat on this forum..

    Every morning I eat 2 to 3 bags of Quaker oatmeal (strawberry flavor) along with 3 to 4 pieces of toast that includes a LOT of peanut butter on it.

    Lately, I just eat as much as I can when I eat lunch, dinner, etc.

    As for a set diet, I do NOT have one. If you know of any resources I could use to set up a diet, please let me know

    Thats about it in a nutshell.. Hitting the weights tomorrow!

    John
    Squat = Not enough
    DL = Not enough
    Bench = Not enough

    Big 3 = Not enough

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    Hi there

    Glad to see you get this started.


    So far, I'm seeing starch, sugar and fat for breakfast, but no protein (think of PB as a fat source, not a protein source).

    Something I would suggest you do is start tracking your food on www.fitday.com for a bit to see how many calories you eat. If you're not gaining weight, well, you know what you'll have to do to fix that. Food is an awesome anabolic agent LOL!

    I eat the same diet, bulking or cutting - the only thing that changes is the amount.

    You can have a peek at the link in my sig to see how I do it.

    Best of luck!

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    you could set up a diet by looking around this website...searching there are lots of different schools of thought on this...diets for bulking and cutting both.

    you just want to make sure to eat 1-1.5 gram of protein per lbm...get in adequate carbs and fats.

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    Thanks a lot guys, I'm checking the website out right now.

    So that would mean I need about 169 - 200 grams of protein a day.
    Squat = Not enough
    DL = Not enough
    Bench = Not enough

    Big 3 = Not enough

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    good luck with everything...routine looks solid

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    Your dumbell benches will go up fast. My brother went from 30x5 to 60x6 in just a few months. Just stick to it, and the more you eat the more you gain
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    Well got some updates.. Went to the gym this morning and here is how it came out.

    Today was Chest / Upper Back

    Bench Press (It was on the Hammer Strength machine thing [no pulleys, just had free weights you placed on it])

    100X7
    100X6
    100X10

    Dumbell Press

    25X10
    50X10
    50X10

    Close Grip Bench Press

    45X10
    65X10
    95X7

    Incline Dumbell Press

    25X10
    40X5
    40X3

    Bent over Row

    30X10
    45X10
    45X10

    Rear Deltoid Lift (bar)

    45X10
    85X10
    95X9

    Rowing (machine)

    90X10
    120X9
    120X10

    Diet Updates

    I've been fiddling around with Fitday.com that Built referred to me. This looks like it will be an incredibly useful tool as I try to sort out my diet and get some sort of set schedule with food going on.

    I think it will be my greatest challenge as work, life, etc. like to throw its "unexpected" suprises at me a lot.

    Does anyone know how to make the food entries repeat everyday of the week? Such as Monday I eat this this and this, Tuesday.., Weds.., etc.??

    Here is my public Fitday profile..

    http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...wner=1997TBird
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    May 17th, 2005

    Hit the gym for legs today...

    Heres what I did:

    Squat

    115X10
    135X10
    155X5
    155X2

    Wall Sits

    30 sec
    35 sec
    37 sec

    Inverted Leg Press

    90X10
    115X10
    125X10

    Calf Raise (Machine)

    210X10
    255X10
    300X10

    **New Exercise** Dead Lift (Tried it on the Hammer Strength, where I just add free weights)

    90X10
    90X10

    Just did those 2 sets to get a feel of it, since I have never attempted it before.

    Dietary Updates

    I believe since it takes awhile to set up the food on FitDay, I will do it every Sunday, I will make a guesstimate on planning out my week.

    I found out that Tuna gives a kickass amount of protein. In the little can I ate today I must of got over 50gs of protein. That's psycho! I'm going to start eating a can before I hit the gym.

    I did a weight check today, I weighed in at 173 lbs with my SHOES OFF. Very pleased!! Its great to finally see SOME progress!

    Can't wait to hit the weights tomorrow!
    Squat = Not enough
    DL = Not enough
    Bench = Not enough

    Big 3 = Not enough

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    Tuna Kicks Ass

    Just thought I'd state that:

    Anyways.. Arms / Torso Today

    Curls (I use the 45lb straight bar because all the gym has is EZ curl bars)

    65X10
    75X10
    85X10
    85X4

    **New Exercise** Side to Side Back Extension

    10 Reps
    10X10

    Hanging Side to Side situps

    10 reps
    10 reps

    Back Extension

    10 reps
    25X10
    35X10

    Skull Crushers

    45X10
    45X10
    55X4

    Pulldowns (Tri)

    60X10
    70X10
    70X9

    Hanging Leg raises

    5 sets of 10 reps each

    Weigh ins I have decided will be on every Tuesday.

    I'm gonna stock up on tuna and hope for the best.. 50gs + in a can in fine by me

    Eating RULES!!

    Can't wait to hit those weights again tomorrow!!
    Squat = Not enough
    DL = Not enough
    Bench = Not enough

    Big 3 = Not enough

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    Looks like you're on the right track. And yes, tuna does kick ass.
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    May 19th, 2005

    Shoulders and Chest

    Military Press

    45X10
    65X10
    75X4

    Front Raise

    10X10
    10X10

    Lateral Shoulder

    45X10
    65X10
    65X10

    DB Press

    40X10
    50X9
    50X6

    Incline DB Press

    25X10
    30X10
    40X5

    Butterfly

    25X9
    25X10

    Kind of an off day I guess, got a lot of stuff on my mind. Work and now the suit I ordered for my friend's wedding came in WRONG. So that really throws a wrench into things.

    This is the last day of working out for me this week. I'll be writing next week!! Have a good weekend all!

    Thanks for reading so far,

    John
    Squat = Not enough
    DL = Not enough
    Bench = Not enough

    Big 3 = Not enough

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    I kinda wanna say stick an extra set in there. And knock off those 2 set ones!

    For example maybe you did

    Military Press

    45X10 <--- good warm up
    55x*
    65X10
    70x*
    75X4

    Front Raise

    10X10
    10X10
    Try 15's for the next 2 sets


    DB Press

    40X10
    50X9
    50X6
    The 50x9 then 50x6 worries me. How long are you resting between sets? I might suggest 40x10 45x10 50x* then finish off with 55. Then when you can do 55 for 10 complete reps, up the weight to 60 and aim for 10 reps. So next time when you up 5 lbs, start 5 lbs heavier


    Incline DB Press
    25X10
    30X10
    40X5
    Same thing here as I said above. And watch that form and dont forget to control the weight on the downward motion. DOnt just drop the weight down

    Butterfly

    25X9
    25X10
    2 more sets!
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    This is a good idea, thanks a bunch man.. I'll try this Monday when I hit the weights!!
    Squat = Not enough
    DL = Not enough
    Bench = Not enough

    Big 3 = Not enough

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    May 22nd

    Okay, got a diet update.

    I went to Wal-Mart and spent about a solid $10 on all tuna.. Seems this will be my secret weapon to getting the protein I need in the "before workout meal" I bought the big cans to eat that will have 5 servings of 13gs of Protein each..

    So lets do some math..

    5 (Servings) X 13gs per serving = 65gs due to Tuna
    4 (Servrings) X 7gs per serving = 28gs due to Peanut Butter
    2 X 3 = 6gs due to Oatmeal

    Total is 99 grams of Protein!!

    Should turn out to be a great week coming up!!!

    John
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    DL = Not enough
    Bench = Not enough

    Big 3 = Not enough

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    You keeping track of your calorie and protein intake?

    If so how much you packing?

    and no need for tuna, just get some protein shakes
    Last edited by JamesBOMB; 05-23-2005 at 12:56 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBOMB
    You keeping track of your calorie and protein intake?

    If so how much you packing?

    and no need for tuna, just get some protein shakes
    Well, I tried your advice today, and it paid off pretty good actually! About the Protein shakes.. They really screw with my stomach and I don't feel so good after taking one.

    May 23, 2005

    DB Press

    40X10
    45X10
    50X10
    55X4

    Bench Press (bar not incl.)

    90X10
    100X8
    100X7

    Close Grip BP

    45X10
    65X10
    95X8

    Incline DB Press

    25X10
    30X10
    35X10
    40X9

    Bent Over Row

    35X10
    40X10
    45X10

    Rear Deltoid Lift (bar)

    45X10
    65X10
    85X10
    95X10

    Rowing

    90X10
    120X10
    130X10

    Diet

    What the ****?? I LOST WEIGHT I weigh.. once again... 169 lbs. What the **** is going on? I am eating more than I ever have, and I just LOST weight? I'm sorry, but I am kind of pissed off right now, so please excuse the language. What am I doin wrong? I am eating milkshakes for lunch at work along with a Big Montana and other foods I usually don't eat
    Squat = Not enough
    DL = Not enough
    Bench = Not enough

    Big 3 = Not enough

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    DOnt worry about your weight. It fluctuates(sp?) so much through out the day

    In one day Iv weighed 214, 218, and 216lbs. Id say 5lbs is expected. Thats why you should measure in the morning when you got nothing in ya. And no clothes on.. Food and water do take up weight ya know!

    And y ou should include the bar in your bench lol. And I hope that list isnt in order of how you lifted!

    And dont give up, slowly you will make progress. Strength comes first, size comes later
    Last edited by JamesBOMB; 05-24-2005 at 01:42 AM.
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    Well, the bench I'm using right now is the Hammer Strength Bench.. It doesn't have a bar.

    Also, I usually do the DB Press First, then I move over to incline, and do some upper back inbetween sets, after that, its whatever I feel like doing!
    Squat = Not enough
    DL = Not enough
    Bench = Not enough

    Big 3 = Not enough

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    May 24th

    Legs

    115X10
    135X10
    135X7

    Wall Sits

    37 Seconds
    49 Seconds (wanted to see the absolute longest I could go today!)

    Inverted Leg Press

    100X10
    110X10
    135X10

    Calf Raise (Machine)

    225X10
    255X10
    315X10

    Dead Lift (Hammer Strength still, I want to get used to the motion, next week its the bar)

    90X10
    90X10

    I weighed in at 171 lbs today. I hate this weight shifting crap, but at least I am getting stronger, which is a good thing
    Last edited by John04Civic; 05-24-2005 at 09:19 AM.
    Squat = Not enough
    DL = Not enough
    Bench = Not enough

    Big 3 = Not enough

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    Personally, I would do deads on back day and SLDLs (straight-legged deadlifts) on leg day. Deads primarily target lower back -- I assume that's what you're doing -- and SLDLs primarily target hamstrings.

    Of course, ymmv.

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    What does ymmv mean?

    I feel the burn mainly in my legs / booty But I'm going for the bar next time.
    Squat = Not enough
    DL = Not enough
    Bench = Not enough

    Big 3 = Not enough

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