Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 32

Thread: Changed Diet !!! (WOW)

  1. #1
    Lean and Ripped
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    105

    Changed Diet !!! (WOW)

    Wow!! I went and saw a person about my meal plan last week and everything got changed. My total intake is totally different. I've got to admit so far it has been worth the cost. Even though I am eating more, my energy has gone up, alot. Today, was a back day and last week I had just increased my weights and struggled to get all my reps and sets. But today, I actually got my weights and sets and actually had to increase all weights by 10lbs per set. I actually feel stronger since the diet change. Can a diet change make this much of a difference this fast? Or am I going through just a mental change because I think its the diet? Either way, I can't be more pleased. Tomorrows chest day, I'll see if I have the same luck...
    PAINS A GOOD THING. IT LETS YOU KNOW YOU'RE STILL ALIVE.

  2. #2

  3. #3
    Lean and Ripped
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    105

    Before diet

    Isopur Protein
    4 Egg whites
    1 cup non-fat cottage cheese
    1/2 cup dry oats
    1 large banana
    Protein Pudding
    3 Chicken Breast
    1 cup brown rice
    1 can albacore tuna
    2 MRP
    6-8oz fish for dinner
    veggies

    2200 cals, 150 carb., 325 protein
    PAINS A GOOD THING. IT LETS YOU KNOW YOU'RE STILL ALIVE.

  4. #4
    Lean and Ripped
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    105

    New Diet

    I am now upto about 2800 cals with 57% protein, 37% carb, and 6% fats. I will have to wait till I get home to actually put up the actual foods. Still learning what to eat when. Today looks like:

    1 cup dry oats
    5 egg whites
    6.5 oz protein pudding


    1.5lbs of some chili recipe


    9oz of chicken
    1.25 cups brown rice
    3.5oz fresh green veggies

    1 can tuna
    3/4 cup cottage cheese


    9oz fish
    3.5oz fresh green veggies
    sweet potatoe
    PAINS A GOOD THING. IT LETS YOU KNOW YOU'RE STILL ALIVE.

  5. #5

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Jacksonville, FL
    Posts
    99
    Boxingtigger, what is your age, height, and weight?

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    0
    food is the most anabolic substance out there.

    Good job on cutting the albacore tuna. Deep fish=mercury.

    Regular light tuna is much better.

  8. #8
    Cyber Playa AllUp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    In Uranus
    Posts
    1,398
    Oi fats do seem a little low unless you're supplementing. By the looks of it, you're only getting ~5-7g of fat from the fish assuming its cooked w/cooking spray or baked.

    Throw some EVO oil & fish oil or flax in teh mix, nuts are also a decent alternative.
    AUIU
    <=Real Sword, Fake Glow.
    ---
    Research that s*** up son. <me
    ---
    Gyno Rhino: "I think your cyber-game just sucks."
    ---
    Brawl: "Fill it with rocks , walk up to the sales dude and hit him in the face with it . When he falls down kick him in the neck and say " this stuff is junk "."

    Brawl: "Or grab a bottle bust it on the table and stab him in his neck"

  9. #9
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Torrance
    Posts
    250
    6% from fat? that is not very much. Why no fat?

  10. #10
    Lean and Ripped
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    105
    I am not completely sure why the fat % is so low. I was told that this diet would help me cut my bf% and help me maintain my current weight. That is the only thing I could think of why fat% is so low. As far as supplements, my MRP do have some fats in them. Maybe, they were taken into the diet but not shown. He does not count any of my supplements for my diet. He does not believe in supplements at all. So my MRPs and morning protein aren't even factored into my daily diet.
    PAINS A GOOD THING. IT LETS YOU KNOW YOU'RE STILL ALIVE.

  11. #11
    Banned spencerjrus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Americas Crappiest City
    Posts
    15
    Quote Originally Posted by boxingtigger
    I am not completely sure why the fat % is so low. I was told that this diet would help me cut my bf% and help me maintain my current weight. That is the only thing I could think of why fat% is so low. As far as supplements, my MRP do have some fats in them. Maybe, they were taken into the diet but not shown. He does not count any of my supplements for my diet. He does not believe in supplements at all. So my MRPs and morning protein aren't even factored into my daily diet.


    You need to be eating more fat, I would reccomend daily supplementation of some kind of oil.

  12. #12
    Toughest Man in the World Bruise Brubaker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    In the gym, Québec
    Posts
    952
    Even though I am eating more, my energy has gone up, alot.
    Maybe the main reason why you are more energetic is that you are eating more?

  13. #13
    Senior Member Canadian Crippler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    The Pavilion
    Posts
    6,775
    Quote Originally Posted by boxingtigger
    Even though I am eating more, my energy has gone up, alot.
    Yeah I know! Can you believe that taking in more energy will make your energy go up?!?! Freakin amazing!
    "I added some db curls with the pink weights for a bit of a burn." - Rookiebldr

    "im assuming the holy (big) 3 are: curls, bench, legs?" - Saggas

    "had a huge ass burn on my triceps while I was doing those kickbacks, so they'll likely be staying with my exercise program." - Zearoth

    "most of my burned calories coming from something called Basal. Wtf does a leaf have to do with any of it?" - Votorx

    "We have a lot of people like that on our campus, all hippies and things, that go around preaching against corporations, jocks, preps, accountants, and anyone else that feels the need to shower more than occasionally." - Shankerr

    "Damn man why are some women just so demonic and evil.. its like you wanna get a stake and mallet and an erection at the same time." - WBBIRL

  14. #14
    Banned spencerjrus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Americas Crappiest City
    Posts
    15
    Quote Originally Posted by boxingtigger
    Even though I am eating more, my energy has gone up, alot.


    Ludicrous.

  15. #15
    Senior Member hemants's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Posts
    1,569
    You've gone from 150g carbs to 250g and your energy has gone up....go figure.
    If the only thing you are holding is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

  16. #16
    Banned Slim Schaedle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Posts
    1,722
    Quote Originally Posted by spencerjrus
    You need to be eating more fat, I would reccomend daily supplementation of some kind of oil.
    Please tell me why he needs to be eating more fat.

  17. #17
    Just watch me ... Built's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    9,912
    A few reasons to consume sufficient fat:

    Hormone and enzyme production (including test)
    Immune response
    Brain function (neurotransmitters, nerve sheathing)
    Insulin sensitivity
    Essential fatty acids (linoleic acid and alpha-linolenic acid) that cannot be produced by the body.
    Fat is also a carrier of fat soluble vitamins A, D, E, and K.

  18. #18
    Banned Slim Schaedle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Posts
    1,722
    Very true. I was just addressing spencerjrus's blanket tatement that he needs to take in more. If boxing tigger cuts up well on this diet and everything else you mentioned functions correctly, then his fat intake is acceptable and his body type may be better suited for lower fat.

    For example, a moderate carb, relatively higher fat diet did notheing for me. I bumped up the carbs alot and lowered the fat and I easily got withing 5-10% BF.

    Just saying that everyone is different.

  19. #19
    Just watch me ... Built's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    9,912
    Many people get better muscle growth from higher fats, especially saturated animal fats, because of the test response.

    I'm one of 'em.

    And you're quite right - everyone responds differently to the ratios. You have to find your balance.

    But 6% of calories from fat is, IMHO, dangerously low. Even the most extreme dietary considerations rarely have fats lower than 15-20% of calories.

  20. #20
    I wannabebig!
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    in my own world
    Posts
    1,816
    I feel I lean out better on lower fat as well, but higher fat is more satiating

  21. #21
    Banned Slim Schaedle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Posts
    1,722
    I'm taking a closer look at his diet/fat content and...

    Let's say 6 grams come from the oats.
    2 grams from the rice (yes, it seems insignificant)
    9 grams from the chicken
    and 27 grams from the fish (i plugged salmon into my program, not sure what kind of fish this is)

    So that's 44 total grams/day not counting the chilli. That's 396 calories which would be about 14% of his 2800 calories per day.

    This meets the adequate intake for a typical adult.
    Last edited by Slim Schaedle; 05-17-2005 at 04:49 PM.

  22. #22
    Just watch me ... Built's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    9,912
    I'm going by this:
    I am now upto about 2800 cals with 57% protein, 37% carb, and 6% fats.
    And even if it's 14%, this is still REALLY freaking low-fat.

    Works for some I guess.

    I'd feel like crap on that, personally. And I'd be worried that he isn't getting enough EFAs if his fats are this low.

    Considering carbs are a non-essential nutrient, it would seem prudent to cut them back a smidge to add in a little more fat. Not saying low-carb here, just a little bit of a different balance point.

    My .02

  23. #23

  24. #24
    Banned Slim Schaedle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Posts
    1,722
    I admit I am probably partial to the low-fat since my body responds so well and opposite to how you respond. But as far as EFA amounts go, it would be enough according to my textbooks (granted, they are not bodybuilding manuals)

    Adequate omega 6 intake is 17g for men, 12 g for women
    Adequate omega 3 intake is 1.6g for men and 1.1g for women.

    He would still exceed these amounts two-fold.
    Last edited by Slim Schaedle; 05-18-2005 at 07:45 AM.

  25. #25
    Just watch me ... Built's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    9,912
    Yes, provided he's getting in this much EFA.

    We don't know this.

    Getting a little more fat into his diet won't HURT, and can help ensure adequate levels of these EFAs. (Personally, I'm not interested in adequate nutrition. I want OPTIMAL nutrition. But that's just me. )

    Plus, fat's damned TASTY!

    <eyes jar of natty PB lovingly>

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •