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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Actually, one true story as told by me, about two unrelated people.

    I came across this today in a book on Social/Race economics and I thought it was pretty interesting. Everyone else on this board besides myself might find it incredibly boring, and if that is the case, you can all go to hell, I'm posting it anyway:


    These are the true stories of two boys, one boy is white, the second boy is black.

    The white boy is raised in suburban Chicago by parents who read widely and involve themselves in school reform. His father, who has a decent manufacturing job, often takes the boy on nature hikes. His mother is a housewife who will eventually go back to college and earn a bachelor's degree in education. The boy is happy and performs very well in school. His teachers think he may be a bona fide mathematical genius. His parents are encouraging and are terribly proud when he skips a grade. He has a younger brother who is also very intelligent. The family even holds literary salons in their home.

    The black boy is born in Daytona Beach, FL, and his mother abandons him at the age of two. His father had a good job in sales, but is a heavy drinker. He often beats the little boy with the metal end of a garden hose. One night when the boy is 11, he is decorating a tabletop Christmas tree - the first one he has ever had - when his father starts beating up a lady friend in the kitchen. He hits her so hard that some teeth fly out of her mouth and land at the base of the boy's Christmas tree, but the boy knows better than to speak up. At school he makes no effort whatsoever. Before long he is carrying a gun and mugging suburbanites. He makes sure to be asleep by the time his father returns home from drinking, and to be out of the house before the father awakes. The father eventually goes to jail for sexual assault. By the age of 12, the boy is virtually fending for himself.

    Which of these boys has a chance of succeeding in life?





    Amazingly, both children made it to Harvard.

    The black boy who was beaten went to a local college, went to Penn St and then Harvard with a PhD in economics. He recently wrote a paper called "The Economics of 'Acting White'" in which he examines the disincentives placed on learning by urban culture. He is well established and considered an expert in the field, at the age of 28.


    The white boy also made it to Harvard, and is also very famous. He is Ted Kaczynski.
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    Haha Interesting ...see , kids in the inner city are better off .
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    looks like i am going to hell.

    thought it may have a twisted ending, instead of a happy ending.
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    what about the asian kid

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    Wait, isn't this like one story?

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    did you read this in freakonomics? thats a cool book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_of_all
    did you read this in freakonomics? thats a cool book.


    I did; I have spoken with Levitt a few times after reading it; he seems like a pretty f*ed up guy.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PizDoff
    Wait, isn't this like one story?

    I edited the title in the first post just for you.

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    I'm a fan of Ted's.
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    interesting...

    both are rare cases, though...

    the "norm" is the "norm" for a reason..there will always be exceptions
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrelwooddowd
    both are rare cases, though...

    the "norm" is the "norm" for a reason..there will always be exceptions


    I'll buy this.............with a certain condition though...

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    I think it's still clear that the black boy had much less of a chance at succeeding in life than the white boy.

    I think that society would be much better off if we took all the money we waste on affirmative action, welfare and other economic "projects" and put it all (100%) into our youth's upbringing.

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    I think we are to presume that those programs "trickle down" through the parents, who are ultimately responsible for these kids.
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    so freakonomics is good eh? i saw the interview on daily show. interesting causal relationship btwn abortion and crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizatch
    I think it's still clear that the black boy had much less of a chance at succeeding in life than the white boy.

    I agree, however, I think it demonstrates that you aren't automatically doomed (or have it made) based on where you start out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryska
    interesting causal relationship btwn abortion and crime.

    Yeah, I figured that one would have gotten a little ugly on here so I didn't mention anything about it.

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    wonder if the Library has a copy.


    i don't buy books anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryska
    wonder if the Library has a copy.


    i don't buy books anymore.
    a germaphobe like you would get a library book? ewwwwww look how many other people must have touched it!
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    germaphobe? how much of a germaphobe can i really be when i spend all day messing with other people's computers?

    incidentally - my mom makes the same argument re library books. but i look at it as a money-saving measure.
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    Those on this board who don't work out at personal gyms really can't have germaphobia.

    Interesting story of the two boys.
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    especially at the rate i read. man i promised myself i wouldn't by another book until I was in a house i intended never to leave, on Nov 1st, 2003, after trying to haul a couple of hundred pounds of books from my old apartment. I've doen pretty good with that so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryska
    especially at the rate i read. man i promised myself i wouldn't by another book until I was in a house i intended never to leave, on Nov 1st, 2003, after trying to haul a couple of hundred pounds of books from my old apartment. I've doen pretty good with that so far.
    I've got 4 or 5 sets of bookshelves full. I guess that explains a lot.....
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    yeah i've still got 4 bookshelves full of reference books and some fiction i couldn't bear to part with.
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