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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    DeGroff's HIT Routine

    I have been checking out a lot of forum sites lately and this one seems to have the most people with really good opinions and actual knowledge about how to gain LM. I just started a new routine something i have never done before. I have also looked around here and i havent seen many routines like what im doing. This program is really unique because as you get into the more advanced phases you actually work out less.

    Let me give you guys some background. Once i graduated high school i really started to get into working out. I tried all sorts of things cause i really wanted to lose weight (i was 185 with hardly any muscle mass). I dropped down to like 180lbs then 2 winters ago i thought i knew what i was doing (i was doing Arnolds Beginners Program), and bulked up to around 200lbs. The biggest i have ever been. I still felt fat so decided to change my diet and work out. I dropped down to 165lbs at the end of last summer. Last winter i really started to try to gain weight again, but this time without all the fat gain. I had a lot of trouble so i changed my routine to one body part a day for 6 days a week. I saw some gain like 5lbs or so but nothin great. I picked up "the New High Inensity Training" by Ellington Darden, it changed my opinion on how to bulk. I started last week and im finally getting the hang of the routine.

    Weight: 175
    Height: 5'10"
    Biceps:14 1/2 inches
    Bench:185x6
    I'll get more measurements later. Also i dont know my BF% but i would say its 10-12% but i really dont know. I don't know my maxes cause i havent done them in a while. The bench number isnt really a max thats just what i could lift at the end of my last work out. Any opinions are welcome, this type of program goes against a lot of things that i thought i knew so im tryin it out.

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    good luck. Pst some before pics. the mirror is your best judge.
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    OK heres day last weeks routine and such.
    Monday
    Leg Curl 100lbsx8+
    Leg Ext 150lbsx8+
    Leg Press 200lbsx8
    Straight arm Pullover 60lbsx8
    DB Bench 70lbsx7 (F)
    Bent over rows 20lbsx8+
    Overhead press 40lbsx8
    BB Bicep curls 15lbsx8
    DB one arm ext*
    Wrist curl*
    Stantding Calf Raise**
    Trunk Curl**

    Wednesday
    Leg Curl 110lbsx8+
    Leg Ext 162.5lbsx8+
    Leg Press 200lbsx8+
    SA Pullover 60lbsx8+
    DB Bench 70lbsx8+
    DB BO Row 40lbsx8+
    Press 40lbsx8
    BB Curl 15lbsx8+

    Skipped my friday workout cause i was at my parents house for my lil sis graduation. Damn oh well
    * I get to add 2nd week
    ** Get to add third day of week 2
    Last edited by ddegroff; 06-08-2005 at 02:53 PM.

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    Monday 6/6/05
    Leg Curl 120x8
    Leg Ext 175x8+
    Leg Press 212x8
    SA Pullover 65x8
    DB Bench 75x6 (F)
    DB Row 40x8+
    Press 40x8+
    DB Curl 35x8
    DB Tris 25x8+
    Wrist 40x8

    I forgot to tell you guys (+) means that i need to go up next week (if that was obvious), (F) means i failed on however many reps is next to it.

    Wednesday
    Leg Curl 120x8
    Leg Ext 187.5x8+
    Leg Press 212x8
    SA Pullover 65x8+
    DB Bench 75x7 (F)
    BB Row 25x8+
    Press 45x8+ (?)
    BB Curl 20x7 (F)
    DB Tri 30x8
    Wrist 40x8+

    The shoulder press i did today was good i did all eight but it was tough. Also the leg press machine i have at my gym is kind of weird, i really dont like it but i cant add squats or SLDL yet. Im tryin to follow this program as close as i can. Also i just realized looking back at the program i was suppose to do 10 reps today instead of eight. I'll do that on friday. I also get to add the last two lifts on friday!!!
    Last edited by ddegroff; 06-08-2005 at 03:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxH0LyWaRsxX
    good luck. Pst some before pics. the mirror is your best judge.
    Thanks...
    I dont have a camera but ill work on the pics.
    Last edited by ddegroff; 06-08-2005 at 03:08 PM.

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    Interesting program, your workouts look nice and intense and the weight lookd good too.

    good luck man

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    Thanks Matt.

    I forgot to mention my goals:
    July 4, 2005: Weight: 180lbs
    Bench: 85x12 (DB)
    SA Pullover: 80x12
    August 4, 20005: Weight 180lbs
    Bench: 95x12 (DB)
    SA Pullover:90x12
    Nutritional Goals:
    1. Eat 4-6 clean meals a day
    2. Make sure to get all micro-nuts and if not take a Multi-V
    3. Don't eat crappy foood after work (its so hard when you get off of work late and dont have time to get something healthy) oh well thats what i have to work on.

    Today is my day off so i'll post how my work out went tomorrow! The only good things about these days off is i want to get back in the gym soo bad!!!
    Last edited by ddegroff; 06-09-2005 at 11:57 AM.

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    I'm surprised you're actually doing a HIT routine. HIT has been bashed to hell on these, and many other boards.

    Good luck with the program nonetheless.
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    "Out of all of the sects in the world, we notice an uncanny coincidence: the overwhelming majority just happen to choose the one that their parents belong to. Not the sect that has the best evidence in its favour, the best miracles, the best moral code, the best cathedral, the best stained glass, the best music: when it comes to choosing from the smorgasbord of available religions, their potential virtues seem to count for nothing, compared to the matter of heredity. This is an unmistakable fact; nobody could seriously deny it. Yet people with full knowledge of the arbitrary nature of this heredity, somehow manage to go on believing in their religion, often with such fanaticism that they are prepared to murder people who follow a different one."


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    Yeah, i looked around and it seems like everyone is doing a High volume routine. Ive done that in the pass and didn't see the results. This new routine seems promising. I get to add two more lifts tomorrow!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddegroff
    Yeah, i looked around and it seems like everyone is doing a High volume routine. Ive done that in the pass and didn't see the results. This new routine seems promising. I get to add two more lifts tomorrow!!!
    Well, high volume is not neccessarily the best way to go. I think more and more individuals are doing routines that hit each body part at least 2x per week, maybe even 3. The volume, however, usually stays same.
    "It is often said, mainly by the "no-contests", that although there is no positive evidence for the existence of God, nor is there evidence against his existence. So it is best to keep an open mind and be agnostic. At first sight that seems an unassailable position, at least in the weak sense of Pascal's wager. But on second thought it seems a cop-out, because the same could be said of Father Christmas and tooth fairies. There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?"

    Richard Dawkins


    "Out of all of the sects in the world, we notice an uncanny coincidence: the overwhelming majority just happen to choose the one that their parents belong to. Not the sect that has the best evidence in its favour, the best miracles, the best moral code, the best cathedral, the best stained glass, the best music: when it comes to choosing from the smorgasbord of available religions, their potential virtues seem to count for nothing, compared to the matter of heredity. This is an unmistakable fact; nobody could seriously deny it. Yet people with full knowledge of the arbitrary nature of this heredity, somehow manage to go on believing in their religion, often with such fanaticism that they are prepared to murder people who follow a different one."


    Richard Dawkins


    "Bah. You know I hate poor people."

    Paul Stagg

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    Ya for sure Manveet.

    Its a bummer got a little to carried away last night and slept all day, now im at work. Im gonna lift tomorrow for sure. Ill update after the workout.

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