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Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    The Death Penalty

    For it or against it? Discuss.
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    For it in theory. Current application sucks, though, and if tweaked properly I'll be for it in practice as well.
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    This is a hard topic. I believe strongly in rehabilitation, but I also think there are those few who have done things bad enough that they shouldn't be allowed to live. I'm torn though. If, for example, two or three people broke into my house and killed my family - and I later on killed them in a premeditated way, I think I could get the death penalty for that in some states (correct me if I'm wrong). I'm not sure if I agree with that.

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    I'm against it. That's the last comment I'm making in this thread though.

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    Hell yes I am all for it.

    There are some people that just need to be destroyed.

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    I'm against it because it's boring.

    if they reinstituted gladitorial games amongst death-row inmates or something that would be cool; it isn't that different from what happens in some prisons anyway....

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    When I was a little kid I use to see stories on TV about people who were destroyed on death row for crimes they didn't commit, so I've always thought it was wrong.
    Now that DNA testing is where it is, I think that cramming a slew of evil people into a violent prison to become better criminals on tax dollars is wrong as well.
    Though the argument of rehabilitating people stands, even if a convict were to make an honest attempt at turning their life around, once that person leaves prison, how can that individual integrate into society again? Who would hire a former criminal? Of the few jobs that would, how long would one stay at a meger exsistance?
    If only we could find another land mass like the British found Australia and maroon them somewhere.

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    im up for an eye for an eye....

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    I guess I'm undecided. Most statistics say it doesn't work for a crime deterant. As far as morally I guess it would depend on the nature of the crime. I really can't say everyone who kills someone should get the death penalty-some should some should not.
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    Yes.

    I'd like to see it used in aggravated rape cases.
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    Not against it in principal. But can't see it given the
    efficiency (ha) of our justice system. Too many mistakes.

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    if a person rapes someone then kills them I think they should be raped before they get the latter part of whats coming to them.
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    Since Canada doesn't carry death penalty, I'm pretty much borderline. I would say use it for the most horrible scumbags in our society in Canada. There's people in Canada I think that deserve to die; Clifford Olson, Paul Bernardo and Robert Pickson. I think Karla Holmoka should've gotten the death penalty too since she taped Paul raping her own little sister, but she's leaving prison in mid-June. ****ing dumb-ass prosecutors for making a deal like that. Had they waited, when the cops found the tapes, they could've gotten both to rot in jail for the rest of their lives.
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    There are worse things than death...I said yes because I'd rather be killed than rot...but as homer said there are some sickos out there that are worth nothing and deserve no quarter

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    I would say certain extreme situations may call for it, if the proof was there to back it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callahan
    I'm against it because it's boring.

    if they reinstituted gladitorial games amongst death-row inmates or something that would be cool; it isn't that different from what happens in some prisons anyway....
    Imagine the TV ratings for this. It would put a nice dent in the amount of moeny it takes to running our prisons.
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    The amount of murderers/rapists who commit another felony after there jail term is finished far outweighs the amount of people who are falsely prosecuted for murder/rape.

    Not to mention that it costs nearly $100 a day to maintain a prisoner, something that is coming out of all of our wallets.

    If murderers know they are going to be sentenced to death, I'd say far less of them would commit the crime.

    And eye for an eye; why should you have the right to live if you took that right away from someone else?
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    "most of my burned calories coming from something called Basal. Wtf does a leaf have to do with any of it?" - Votorx

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    Quote Originally Posted by BilltheButcher
    Imagine the TV ratings for this. It would put a nice dent in the amount of moeny it takes to running our prisons.
    Phild Donahue tried to get permission to do live coverage of the Timothy McVeigh execution, I think. He was denied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Crippler
    The amount of murderers/rapists who commit another felony after there jail term is finished far outweighs the amount of people who are falsely prosecuted for murder/rape.
    We don't execute for fellonies. Executing people who are innocent is the only reason I am iffy about the practice. If there is a reql uncoersed confession + DNA plus tonns of credible witnesses (like the courtroom shooting recently) then I think the death penalty is perfect.

    Not to mention that it costs nearly $100 a day to maintain a prisoner, something that is coming out of all of our wallets.
    Death row inmates cost more than standard inmates.

    If murderers know they are going to be sentenced to death, I'd say far less of them would commit the crime.
    Sadly executions have not been shown as a real deterrant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiloMike

    Sadly executions have not been shown as a real deterrant.
    This is true. Consequences have little effect on a criminal that is determined to do something. Otherwise nobody would ever commit a serious crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiloMike


    Sadly executions have not been shown as a real deterrant.
    they may no be a detterant for murder as people who commit murder can often be mentally ill.
    though if you excute people for car crime, i wager my own life on it, that car crime where i live would drop radically!!!
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    for those agaisnt capital punishment.

    if you had been the judge at the numberburg trials in 1945 of nazi war criminal (and hypothesis hitler not commited sucide).
    would you have used the death penalty on them after finding them guilty of the atrocities they commited?

    what is the point of trying to rehilibate hitler? its not like he could ever get a normal job and contribute to society.

    in my opinion, your either for or agaisnt death penalty so i choose one of the most evil people in history to see if you say "YES" or "NO".
    if you make expection to execute hitler you are for the death penalty. This does not mean your use it for say murdering one person.
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    So this is about Saddam then yeah? Or..


    On that note, i here they're trying him on 12 counts of the original 500 they claimed.
    Last edited by J450n; 06-06-2005 at 01:44 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by body
    for those agaisnt capital punishment.

    if you had been the judge at the numberburg trials in 1945 of nazi war criminal (and hypothesis hitler not commited sucide).
    would you have used the death penalty on them after finding them guilty of the atrocities they commited?

    what is the point of trying to rehilibate hitler? its not like he could ever get a normal job and contribute to society.

    in my opinion, your either for or agaisnt death penalty so i choose one of the most evil people in history to see if you say "YES" or "NO".
    if you make expection to execute hitler you are for the death penalty. This does not mean your use it for say murdering one person.
    Reasonable arguments can be made for killing Hitler and keeping him alive, both on moral and pragmatic levels.

    However, exceptional instances have little to do with the common case, however, so you're presenting a red herring. Plus, your black and white interpretation is not useful in studying the actual issues surrounding the death penalty. One may be for it in theory, and against it in practice, or vice versa.

    Most importantly, we have now reached the Godwin point , therefore you lose whatever argument you were trying to make, by rule. Game, set, match.

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    I think this poll needs a neutral option
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