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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin
    I've always believed that NO human being in this world is ugly.
    go to UP.com. browse the pics, then come back and tell me if you feel the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin
    I've always believed that NO human being in this world is ugly. Ugliness is mearly an opininion or a point of view taken from an individual. All humans are the same: we have 2 eyes, 2 ears, a mouth and a nose- unless something unnatural were to occur such as people who unfortunately were born with some defect, NOBODY in the world is ugly.
    With a worldview like that there must be no evil humans, there isn't any right or wrong, or any other quality which is subjective.

    Now, living in the society of perfection that exists today, we may view some people to be more "attractive" than others or PREFER someone over someone else, but that does not make anybody "ugly".
    That would be a society of opinion. Humans are predisposed to judgement. In order to find someone "attractive" there must be a standard below which people may be "unattractive". Like any quality there usually exists a spectrum- some will qualify (in general) as "very attractive" and some as "very unattractive". We also have common synonyms for the two generalizations "beautiful" and "ugly". Who qualifies for which label is subjective, but denial about the existence of "ugly" is... umm.. denial.

    It is obvious that from the messages sent through media in our society today portray healthy people to generally look better than overweight people, but this is something people can change for themselves.
    Are you saying that prior to modern media standards of beauty didn't center on the healthy and otherwise esthetically appealing to whatever standard was accepted at the time?

    I've always followed that everybody looks different and some may look better to you than others, but nobody is ugly and calling someone that would just hurt.
    People are different and run the full spectrum of esthetic as well as personality appeal. Denying that some people are so far below the standard that they may generally be described as "ugly" only because it may hurt someone's feelings is rather absurd.
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    holy crap, wow lol , i didnt expect to start a whole debate session. First off, praetorian, i'll go check out the site :P
    Now, twilomike: Prior to modern media standards, healthy appearance actually wasn't such a big deal. i mean i'm sureeeee people woulda wanted skinny girls rather than fat pigs but i remember before.. now u guys are all gonna laugh.. but there was times where fat people were considered attractive........ because its showed they were wealthy w/e. ie/ Ancient Europe, China.

    Also, when you look at pictures of people and u go "dam she's ugly" ur only comparing that person to a standard u've set for yourself. If ur REALLY think about it, that person is not ugggly so much that their an animal, just not... attractive. lol. OK seriously, i walk around with my friends and we'd be like "god she's ugly" and scan through yearbook and skip through the ugly people, but thats cause we've set a visual standard in our minds to judge this. Ugly is a word like "hate" and "love", its used so much that it distorts its real meaning. "i hate that car" "i love going there" words such as these are used too much in everyday language that its true meaning is now hidden. You don't go calling someone ugly cause they dont look good to u- i mean the if u mean the real meaning of ugly (so visually unappealing u cant loook at it). Blah w/e useless topic.

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    ugly/attractive means to me: sexual attractiveness.

    this is influenced by actually TWO things. looks and confidance. confidance makes a plain girl hot (but not an ugly girl plain), and it makes a hot girl hotter. and no, ive got no clue how to spell confidence. (i think i just got it )

    as far as 'inner' beauty' goes. most men do (and should imo) choose women on the basis of sexual attractiveness to them and then see what kind of person they are. eventually they find someone who has good personality too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin
    All humans are the same: we have 2 eyes, 2 ears, a mouth....
    Yes, we are all the same. Screw DNA, screw genetics... we're all equal!
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    well my mama said, "ugly is as ugly does..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by dxiw
    I KNOW you are ugly because if your fat you lack self respect in the worst way and THATS a personality flaw. In addition, they're physically horrendous.
    I'm just curious about people with thyroid problems, and whether they are exempt from this statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllUp
    I'm just curious about people with thyroid problems, and whether they are exempt from this statement.

    No.

    Obviously, if someone has a thyroid problem, it's because they are too ugly and their thyroid thought they weren't hot anymore and was like "Damn, this is UGLY, I'm leavin'" and then went bye-bye and left the metabolism all out of whack cause the metabolism wouldn't pay child support and was addicted to crack and er.r.r.rr222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222
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    Quote Originally Posted by largelegsbuthot
    I think that quote refers to someone who is some-what physically attractive in the first place.
    Have you never met a average looking person who had tremendous spirit and exhibited a form of natural kindness when you first met them or saw them?

    I would pretty much agree with your statement a few years ago, but I've seen too much of "soda can man" personality to think that way now.

    I really believe the old saying "watch how they treat others," especially if your in love with that person because when that fades, the next person they choose to shower their true personality on might be you.
    Here's the ****ed up thing: I'm avg.looking, don't make fun of those who don't deserve it, and almost ALL of the girls here are like the soda can man you refer to and that screws me for relationships here. There are some really good looking girls here but I can't stand their personalities. From what I hear, women always say they want guys like me, but WHERE ARE THEY? I think it's just some scam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyno Rhino
    No.

    Obviously, if someone has a thyroid problem, it's because they are too ugly and their thyroid thought they weren't hot anymore and was like "Damn, this is UGLY, I'm leavin'" and then went bye-bye and left the metabolism all out of whack cause the metabolism wouldn't pay child support and was addicted to crack and er.r.r.rr222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222

    this coming from the man who's ass didn't want to hang out with him no more.


    don't be dissing folks with thyroid problems. it's a pretty steep hurdle to overcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Hatfield
    Here's the ****ed up thing: I'm avg.looking, don't make fun of those who don't deserve it, and almost ALL of the girls here are like the soda can man you refer to and that screws me for relationships here. There are some really good looking girls here but I can't stand their personalities. From what I hear, women always say they want guys like me, but WHERE ARE THEY? I think it's just some scam.

    of course women want guys like you.

    except cute and rich.

    (that's a joke, btw)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Hatfield
    Here's the ****ed up thing: I'm avg.looking, don't make fun of those who don't deserve it, and almost ALL of the girls here are like the soda can man you refer to and that screws me for relationships here. There are some really good looking girls here but I can't stand their personalities. From what I hear, women always say they want guys like me, but WHERE ARE THEY? I think it's just some scam.
    Yeah, that's a myth somebody put out there so we wouldn't go kill ourselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryska
    don't be dissing folks with thyroid problems. it's a pretty steep hurdle to overcome.
    I didn't. You know that, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Hatfield
    Here's the ****ed up thing: I'm avg.looking, don't make fun of those who don't deserve it, and almost ALL of the girls here are like the soda can man you refer to and that screws me for relationships here. There are some really good looking girls here but I can't stand their personalities. From what I hear, women always say they want guys like me, but WHERE ARE THEY? I think it's just some scam.
    Very true, very true. How is this for hypocrisy...I'm the one who started this thread and my boyfriend was a very BIG jerk about a year ago.

    He may even be when I'm not around (though I'm positive he wouldn't throw things at people), but we get along really well, he's the greatest in my eyes, but I've known him for 10 years now and I always told myself I wouldn't go out with someone like him, now we've been dating for 4 months.

    I don't know why.

    I probably wouldn't date someone like you either because I would think you were too good for me.

    A least my boyfriend and I are pretty good looking but lacking some major things equally. Honestly, I think some of this bad behaviour is from the big blackhole in our(my) character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryska
    this coming from the man who's ass didn't want to hang out with him no more...
    bwhahaha sorry gyno, but this just ****ing cracked me up!!! hahahahhahaha im really laughing out loud here..


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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerManDL
    Yeah, that's a myth somebody put out there so we wouldn't go kill ourselves.
    haha, yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCC
    I can find something beautiful in nearly everything.

    I see ugly more as pertaining to personality. A great looking person can easily become ugly to me after getting to know them or seeing how they treat others.
    Amen.

    BCC is absolutely correct.

    Many a times i have met physically attractive people who become repulsive (physically as well) to me just because of their personality, and vice versa. I know im not alone in this.

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