The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #1
    Wannabebig Member
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    heavier plates vs lighter plates


    i recently accomplished 3 reps on 80 kg when the bar was loaded with 2*20 plates and 2*10 plates. the next week i went to the gym and this time loaded the bar with 6*10 plates (80 kg total weight again) and this time achieved 8 reps quite comfortably.

    the heavier plates seemed to make a difference - ok it was a week later but still would this account for 5 reps! which has never happened before.

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    eek... it's lil' Fixation! fixationdarknes's Avatar
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    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    Senior Member Jorge Sanchez's Avatar
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    80kg=80kg so unless the 10kg plates weigh less than 10kg or the 20s more than 20 it is the same weight.
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  6. #5
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    I understand what you are saying that since the larger weights kept the center of balance closer to the middle of the bar, it appears to be easier to lift however, maybe it was phsycological or maybe it was just the weeks rest that got you the extra reps, however there was not enough weights strung out on the bar to throw off the balance if it did come into play. For the most part, if the weights are balanced evenly weight is weight.

    The principle behind your thought patterns here are comparable to lifting a 45 lb db with one hand is easier to do than lifting an Olympic barbell weighing the same amount with one hand.
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    B+D+S = 1 Massive Mofo
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    trainerSI I understand you, but I still don't understand that tangle of mess above.
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    If you can't read, of course you won't understand it.

    He is saying that he could do more reps with 80kg when using lighter plates than he could with heavier plates.

    My only advice is to try to reproduce the phenomenon again, and your conclusion might be that what happened was only a coincidence.

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    i think its 100% physchological. there wont be that much change in stability.

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    Senior Member Jorge Sanchez's Avatar
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    especially since more 10kg plates would push the weight further away from the centre of the bar making the bar less stable and harder to lift
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    I get what ur sayin bro...its most likly a mental aspect of it...your looking at the bar and going thats a lot of ****ing plates where as the less amount of plates would give you mental confidence once again never under estimate the human brain


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