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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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  1. #1
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    am i overtraining or undertraining?

    my routine used to be
    monday: upper body
    tuesday lowerbody
    wednesday:upper body
    and so on
    I thought that was overdoing it so I changed my routine to this
    monday upper
    tuesday lower
    wednesday rest
    thursday upper
    friday lower
    saturday rest
    and so on

    the thing is sunday I did upper body and I maxed out on bench and I could do 180x2 pretty easily. today(wednesday) I maxed out again and 180x2 seemed harder than last time. does this mean I am overtraining?? I feel that if I spread my workouts any farther apart than I won't be training enough
    bench: 290x1 (vid of 285 http://youtube.com/watch?v=NbXh7BKArxE )
    squat: 300X1
    deadlift: 420X1
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    Very descriptive routine.
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    I would say skip Sunday. You only need to do upper body twice a week at max. But, what do you do for your upper body and lower body?

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    I do a ****load for upper body.

    for bench 160 lbs 8x3
    closegrip bench 120 lbs 3x8
    incline dumbell press 50lbs in each hand 2x8
    decline dumbell pres 50 lbs in each hand 2x8
    standing dumbell curl 35lbs each hand 2x8
    weighted dips 2x8
    decline situps with 50lbs on stomach 2x15
    hammer curl 20 lbs each hand 2x5
    wrist curls barbell with 40 lbs 2xfailure
    standing tricep extensions 2x8

    with doing all this work should my routine be more like
    monday upper
    tuesday rest
    wednesday lower
    thursday rest
    friday upper
    and so on
    would that routine be best considering the amount of intensity my workouts have?
    bench: 290x1 (vid of 285 http://youtube.com/watch?v=NbXh7BKArxE )
    squat: 300X1
    deadlift: 420X1
    age 17
    5'9"
    175 lbs

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    The only person who can tell you that is yourself, try it out, if the DOMS interfere with the following day spread it out. If your fine, keep it.
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    i guess the question I should have asked is, how many days can you rest between each workout before you start to actually lose muscle??
    Last edited by need4muscle; 07-13-2005 at 12:27 PM.
    bench: 290x1 (vid of 285 http://youtube.com/watch?v=NbXh7BKArxE )
    squat: 300X1
    deadlift: 420X1
    age 17
    5'9"
    175 lbs

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    i personally would lower the volume for the upper day. id lose the decline dumbbell bench, and the standing tricep extensions. also just do the abs on the lower body day. another thing.... your back, does that get trained at all?
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    well i do deadlifts on lower body day because I don't have a squat rack so that could count for training my back
    bench: 290x1 (vid of 285 http://youtube.com/watch?v=NbXh7BKArxE )
    squat: 300X1
    deadlift: 420X1
    age 17
    5'9"
    175 lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by need4muscle
    i guess the question I should have asked is, how many days can you rest between each workout before you start to actually lose muscle??
    A while. Don't worry, even if you take a week off, you won't start looking like Screech from Saved By the Bell...

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    Your routine is horrible. 14 sets for chest. 5 sets for triceps. 0 SETS FOR BACK. 2 sets abs biceps and forearms. I could only imagine what your leg workout looks like....15sets quads 5sets calves...u only like the muscles u see in the mirror huh? just kidding i bet you just forgot to put down sets for back.

    Heres what i suggest for upper body day:
    2sets flat bench
    2sets dips
    2sets pullups
    2sets barbell rows
    1set military press
    1set tricep bicep
    (i suggest u train ABS on lower body day or your off day because you dont want to squat with sore abs)

    EDIT: add a set of shrugs if u still have energy
    Last edited by CiteCollegiale; 07-13-2005 at 11:08 PM.

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    if you're gonna work out four days a week, why not make it a 4-day split?

    1: chest, bi
    2: back, tri
    3: off
    4: shoulders
    5: legs
    6: off
    7: off
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    You forget to work your back. You need to stop coming up with your routines and start reading countless amounts of articles. For now, try out WBB#1.

    Your split is fine; your exercise selection is just terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CiteCollegiale
    Your routine is horrible. 14 sets for chest. 5 sets for triceps. 0 SETS FOR BACK. 2 sets abs biceps and forearms. I could only imagine what your leg workout looks like....15sets quads 5sets calves...u only like the muscles u see in the mirror huh? just kidding i bet you just forgot to put down sets for back.

    Heres what i suggest for upper body day:
    2sets flat bench
    2sets dips
    2sets pullups
    2sets barbell rows
    1set military press
    1set tricep bicep
    (i suggest u train ABS on lower body day or your off day because you dont want to squat with sore abs)

    EDIT: add a set of shrugs if u still have energy


    I think this routine is much better,

    However, much more important is your diet,
    as someone once said (Casey Viator?? maybe, i can't remeber),

    'there's no such thing as overtraining, just undereating'

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    I dont workout at a gym thats why I can't do a lot of exerscises. I only have adjustable dumbells, aand a weight bench with incline/decline/flat positions, and leg curl/preacher curl attachments. I have started doing this routine and I am going to stick with it. day1 chest/bis, day2 back/tris, day3 legs, day4 rest, and repeat. what exersises can I do for my back with the equipment I have??
    ps. I have 160 lbs of weight and a 30lb barbell
    bench: 290x1 (vid of 285 http://youtube.com/watch?v=NbXh7BKArxE )
    squat: 300X1
    deadlift: 420X1
    age 17
    5'9"
    175 lbs

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    Lots...bent-over barbell rows, bent-over dumbbell rows, deadlifts (probably need more then 160lbs though), t-bar rows, Yates row, good mornings. To name a few. You really should find a way to do chinups and/or pullups.
    Last edited by bassman09; 07-14-2005 at 08:41 AM.

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    well its 160 lbs of weights + the 30 lb barbell, so its 190 lbs. I can find a way to do pullups. and do you think I should do deadlifts on leg day, or back day??
    bench: 290x1 (vid of 285 http://youtube.com/watch?v=NbXh7BKArxE )
    squat: 300X1
    deadlift: 420X1
    age 17
    5'9"
    175 lbs

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    Since you're doing an upper lower split do them on leg day

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    Lift when you feel ready to if you are too tired lifting upper body ever other day then don't I'd say split it up more like 3 day split chest/tri/shoulder back/bi legs and rest a day

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    alright thanks
    bench: 290x1 (vid of 285 http://youtube.com/watch?v=NbXh7BKArxE )
    squat: 300X1
    deadlift: 420X1
    age 17
    5'9"
    175 lbs

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