is it possible to get stronger and not gain weight, b/c i found its very hard to get stronger unless im gaining weight. My brother's philosphy is..."you have to gain weight to get big... but you can get strong without getting bigger??
whats the deal
I would say that if you lift 4-8 reps and eat at your BMR then you wouldnt gain weight just strength.
visit powerlifting forum on this site.
some one the guys in there have gained lots of strenght without putting on much weight at all.
though if you do gain weight you should get stronger.
you can increase your strength by getting more efficient at the movement and getting better at nerves firing.
the other way is through hypertrophy but your trying to avoid that. so do not eat to much.
my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.
ur brother is a geniusOriginally Posted by SteveRaiken
Gaining weight certainly helps, but it's not necessary. I've lost 16 lbs since January and have increased my squat 70 lbs in the same time frame.
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Gym PRs: Squat:635 Bench:560 Deadlift:495
Meet PRs: Squat:575 Bench:520 Deadlift:510 Total: 1605@220
Gaining weight is one of the easiest ways to break through a bench or squat plateau. Being big helps move big weights.
You don't have to be big to be strong though. Olympic weightlifters and powerlifters (at least the lower weight classes) are filled with athletes who are amazingly strong, but not particularly big - they are stronger than they look.
A lot of it is genetic and how you train and eat.
There is no doubt that it will help you, but its not necessary. Ive lost close to 20lbs since last november and put over 100lbs on my benchpress. When I started squatting in the middle of 8th grade I weighed 205 and could only squat 225 for a few reps. Winter of my 10th grade year at our football powerlifting competition I squated 495 at a bodyweight of 255-260 and I think the weight gain helped but wasnt the soul reason. I wont be able to bench a truck if I gain 100lbs of fat, gaining LEAN weight will help but not fat. So dont be fooled when you step on the scale and see your weight going up... unless its lean weight.
Do what works for your body, thats how you get strong... one rep/set scheme might light a fire under your muscular development while another may be a wet match in a damp cave. The way Ive been lifting for these last 9 months have seen pretty good gains, but as of late have slowed down either due to a platue or my lower cals these days.
Last edited by WBBIRL; 07-18-2005 at 04:20 PM.
Yeah it seems like you most definitely can make strength gains without weight gains but they won't be nearly as fast as the gains that you would see if you were putting on more weight. That's why the approach that I'm going with is to get my body fat % exactly where I want it (8 or 9 percent) and then maintain my bf % while putting on strength gains (muscle growth is welcome) so that I can get nice and buff while still having a nice chiseled look.
Its very possibly, i actualy lost weight from last year (9 lbs) and i've gotten a good deal stronger.Originally Posted by SteveRaiken
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hey well thanks a lot guys for all the responces..! i understand now!