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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Stubborn Biceps (back routine too)

    I have been on vacation, moving around, and other such things (I don't know if these are too blame) but my biceps curls have never increased. I'm always doing 3x8 alt. seated DB curls with 20 lbs and then 3x8 preacher curl at 55 lbs. But this week, I couldn't even do that (no lifting for two weeks?). What the hell?

    Here's my routine:
    Deadlit 3x8
    Hyperextension 2x8
    t-bar row 3x8
    cable row 2x8
    cable external rotate 3x8
    Pull ups/chin ups 3x8

    Seated alt. DB curl 3x8
    Preacher curl 3x8
    Standing BB curl 2x8



    I'm thinking of changing it too:
    Deadlit 3x8
    t-bar row 3x8
    Pull ups/chin ups 3x8
    cable external rotate 3x8

    Seated alt. DB curl 3x8
    Preacher curl 3x8 OR Standing BB curl 3x8


    Is this better? Also, what hits the back harder: chin ups or pull ups? I also want that nice line down my spine, that's why I originally had the extra sets of hyperextensions.
    Last edited by PhilsterT; 08-10-2005 at 07:37 PM.

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    The extra exercise won't give you that. Definition comes from having lower body fat and more muscle. If you can do both chinups and pullups I'd say alternate every once in a while. It looks to me like your routine has too much volume, and if your bis are at the end of that back workout, you probably don't have the stamina to lift what you normally would if curls were the first thing you did. Your change looks good, but if the only reason those rotations are in there is to get the definition, you can take them out. If you have been doing that same (first one) routine for a long time, try the new switch idea for a while and see if your strength improves. If there is no change after a couple weeks or so, change the order in which you do the exercises.
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    Maybe you respond better to low volume training? I know I only do 3 sets/week for biceps (at most) and my arms have grown very rapidly (got the stretch marks to prove it ). Right now my arms measure 17"L 16.75"R (granted I'm @14-15% bf) and for the past few weeks I have not even directly trained my biceps at all. Also, granted I don't do DLs on back day, I only do around 8 sets/week for my upper back.
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    Titanium Jim: Yeah, I know all about bodyfat and such. I'm around 13% now. I just wanted to hit the spine so when I cut later I would be able to see it.

    What hits the back harder: chin ups or pulls up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilsterT
    What hits the back harder: chin ups or pulls up?
    Yes.


    Geez, do both. They both work many muscles in the back, and the only difference is a slight change in the proportion of effort presented by biceps vs brachioradialis vs back.

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