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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    NFL Fantasy Draft 11th spot sucks ass

    I guess I've been lucky in the past, getting mid-round positions, but man this year I got 11th, and I will have to call this the worst spot of all. At least in a 12-teamer.

    The 12th man at least can go back to back, so bit easier in that sense, but 11th gets a pick and then 2 picks before his next, so there is still some potential for messing with your plans.

    After you make that 2nd pick, you might as well go have a nap. It takes forever, and there is no way to plan. I had about 12 guys queued up that I would possibly take, and when it came my time, all are gone. So there is no point in speculating until 3 or 4 picks before yours.


    Anyway, my strategy at that spot, was to pick somewhat reliable players.

    First four picks were Dillon, Portis, Horn, and Gonzales. I think it's a good core for a 12 man league.

    I could have had Jamal Lewis, as he sank all the way to the end, but I'm not sure I want him, givin his size and the fact that he had ankle surgery.

    I think Dillon will be solid, probably not hit last years numbers, but not too much of a drop off. Portis I think will get more TDs this year, he can't do much worse. And even in what ppl think is a horrible year, he had a combined 1500 yards and 7tds.

    We reduced QB scoring to a more performance standard of 4 pts for passing TDs, only the commish also made it 25 yds per pt instead of 20. So I waited a little while, and against my own common sense drafted Vick. I didn't overpay though, got him in the 5th or 6th round. I figure with QB scoring being that low, rushing yards from that spot will be a huge advantage. Brooks is backing him up anyway, so still pretty comfy.

    All I can say, is picking 11 seriously changes what a team looks like. I usually always go with 3 RBs right from the start, but by the time the snake reached me for my third pick, there were only backups left.

    Anyway, thought I'd share, since I know the fever will be catching on soon as more drafts happen.

    In case this helps anyone, here is how our draft went. I think the first two guys were on autodraft for the first round or two. I wasn't very well prepared for this draft, as it was earlier than normal and snuck up on me.

    Round 1
    1. P. Manning Vikings
    2. D. Culpepper Oh No T.O.
    3. L. Tomlinson Gatos del Tigre
    4. S. Alexander Poppa Sacks
    5. P. Holmes North Dallas...
    6. D. McAllister Scarborough ...
    7. D. Davis DownNotOut
    8. E. James Cleveland St...
    9. R. Moss Screaming Mo...
    10. W. McGahee YOU CAN DO IT!
    11. C. Dillon Killer Bald ...
    12. J. Lewis Teabagers
    Round 2
    13. J. Jones Teabagers
    14. C. Portis Killer Bald ...
    15. L. Jordan YOU CAN DO IT!
    16. R. Johnson Screaming Mo...
    17. S. Jackson Cleveland St...
    18. T. Barber DownNotOut
    19. A. Green Scarborough ...
    20. K. Jones North Dallas...
    21. C. Martin Poppa Sacks
    22. B. Westbrook Gatos del Tigre
    23. T. Bell Oh No T.O.
    24. C. Brown Vikings
    Round 3
    25. R. Wayne Vikings
    26. W. Dunn Oh No T.O.
    27. T. Owens Gatos del Tigre
    28. M. Harrison Poppa Sacks
    29. C. Johnson North Dallas...
    30. T. Holt Scarborough ...
    31. D. McNabb DownNotOut
    32. C. Williams Cleveland St...
    33. J. Arrington Screaming Mo...
    34. A. Gates YOU CAN DO IT!
    35. J. Horn Killer Bald ...
    36. K. Barlow Teabagers
    Round 4
    37. F. Taylor Teabagers
    38. T. Gonzalez Killer Bald ...
    39. H. Ward YOU CAN DO IT!
    40. J. Witten Screaming Mo...
    41. J. Walker Cleveland St...
    42. D. Foster DownNotOut
    43. R. Brown Scarborough ...
    44. A. Johnson North Dallas...
    45. J. Bettis Poppa Sacks
    46. D. Jackson Gatos del Tigre
    47. Mi. Clayton Oh No T.O.
    48. J. Porter Vikings
    Round 5
    49. M. Bennett Vikings
    50. N. Burleson Oh No T.O.
    51. D. Bennett Gatos del Tigre
    52. A. Boldin Poppa Sacks
    53. T. Green North Dallas...
    54. T. Henry Scarborough ...
    55. S. Smith DownNotOut
    56. Ro. Williams Cleveland St...
    57. A. Lelie Screaming Mo...
    58. B. Favre YOU CAN DO IT!
    59. L. Coles Killer Bald ...
    60. M. Bulger Teabagers
    Round 6
    61. E. Moulds Teabagers
    62. M. Vick Killer Bald ...
    63. Baltimore YOU CAN DO IT!
    64. K. Collins Screaming Mo...
    65. C. Benson Cleveland St...
    66. I. Bruce DownNotOut
    67. L. Johnson Scarborough ...
    68. C. Chambers North Dallas...
    69. J. Plummer Poppa Sacks
    70. T. Jones Gatos del Tigre
    71. R. Droughns Oh No T.O.
    72. J. Shockey Vikings
    Round 7
    73. C. Rogers Vikings
    74. A. Crumpler Oh No T.O.
    75. Buffalo Gatos del Tigre
    76. L. Fitzgerald Poppa Sacks
    77. D. Driver North Dallas...
    78. L. Suggs Scarborough ...
    79. Ji. Smith DownNotOut
    80. M. Muhammad Cleveland St...
    81. M. Anderson Screaming Mo...
    82. T. Brady YOU CAN DO IT!
    83. S. Moss Killer Bald ...
    84. D. Branch Teabagers
    Round 8
    85. D. Blaylock Teabagers
    86. E. Shelton Killer Bald ...
    87. P. Burress YOU CAN DO IT!
    88. L. Evans Screaming Mo...
    89. D. Mason Cleveland St...
    90. T. Heap DownNotOut
    91. D. Staley Scarborough ...
    92. T. Duckett North Dallas...
    93. R. McMichael Poppa Sacks
    94. D. Brees Gatos del Tigre
    95. Ro. Smith Oh No T.O.
    96. Philadelphia Vikings
    Round 9
    97. D. Stallworth Vikings
    98. M. Faulk Oh No T.O.
    99. A. Vinatieri Gatos del Tigre
    100. M. Stover Poppa Sacks
    101. Da. Clark North Dallas...
    102. M. Hasselbeck Scarborough ...
    103. D. Akers DownNotOut
    104. C. Palmer Cleveland St...
    105. New York Screaming Mo...
    106. E. Kennison YOU CAN DO IT!
    107. A. Brooks Killer Bald ...
    108. T. Houshmandzadeh Teabagers
    Round 10
    109. E. Johnson Teabagers
    110. New England Killer Bald ...
    111. M. Robinson YOU CAN DO IT!
    112. K. Warner Screaming Mo...
    113. R. Williams Cleveland St...
    114. Atlanta DownNotOut
    115. B. Stokley Scarborough ...
    116. Pittsburgh North Dallas...
    117. Carolina Poppa Sacks
    118. C. Cooley Gatos del Tigre
    119. J. Elam Oh No T.O.
    120. T. Williamson Vikings
    Round 11
    121. D. Rhodes Vikings
    122. Indianapolis Oh No T.O.
    123. D. Givens Gatos del Tigre
    124. J. Delhomme Poppa Sacks
    125. C. Pennington North Dallas...
    126. J. McCareins Scarborough ...
    127. S. McNair DownNotOut
    128. L. Smith Cleveland St...
    129. M. Vanderjagt Screaming Mo...
    130. C. Buckhalter YOU CAN DO IT!
    131. J. Wilkins Killer Bald ...
    132. D. Boston Teabagers
    Round 12
    133. N. Davenport Teabagers
    134. T. Calico Killer Bald ...
    135. M. Shipp YOU CAN DO IT!
    136. A. Davis Screaming Mo...
    137. K. McCardell Cleveland St...
    138. S. Davis DownNotOut
    139. A. Toomer Scarborough ...
    140. K. Colbert North Dallas...
    141. Ke. Johnson Poppa Sacks
    142. W. Parker Gatos del Tigre
    143. M. Pittman Oh No T.O.
    144. S. Janikowski Vikings
    Round 13
    145. D. Carr Vikings
    146. B. Edwards Oh No T.O.
    147. A. Randle El Gatos del Tigre
    148. M. Williams Poppa Sacks
    149. J. Wiggins North Dallas...
    150. T. Glenn Scarborough ...
    151. D. Patten DownNotOut
    152. B. Leftwich Cleveland St...
    153. B. Jacobs Screaming Mo...
    154. L. Toefield YOU CAN DO IT!
    155. B. Lloyd Killer Bald ...
    156. J. Harrington Teabagers
    Round 14
    157. N. Kaeding Teabagers
    158. L. Betts Killer Bald ...
    159. F. Gore YOU CAN DO IT!
    160. R. Curry Screaming Mo...
    161. M. Nugent Cleveland St...
    162. Ma. Clayton DownNotOut
    163. S. Graham Scarborough ...
    164. R. Longwell North Dallas...
    165. J. Gaffney Poppa Sacks
    166. G. Lewis Gatos del Tigre
    167. K. Boller Oh No T.O.
    168. B. Troupe Vikings
    Round 15
    169. Tampa Bay Vikings
    170. J. Putzier Oh No T.O.
    171. B. Griese Gatos del Tigre
    172. D. Graham Poppa Sacks
    173. J. Galloway North Dallas...
    174. D. Jolley Scarborough ...
    175. P. Warrick DownNotOut
    176. M. Jenkins Cleveland St...
    177. H. Miller Screaming Mo...
    178. P. Price YOU CAN DO IT!
    179. R. Caldwell Killer Bald ...
    180. S. McDonald Teabagers
    Round 16
    181. V. Haynes Teabagers
    182. M. Morris Killer Bald ...
    183. M. Clarett YOU CAN DO IT!
    184. Kansas City Screaming Mo...
    185. M. Moore Cleveland St...
    186. Denver DownNotOut
    187. Arizona Scarborough ...
    188. J. Hall North Dallas...
    189. L. Tynes Poppa Sacks
    190. B. Franks Gatos del Tigre
    191. Chicago Oh No T.O.
    192. Miami Vikings
    Round 17
    193. O. Mare Vikings
    194. R. Brown Oh No T.O.
    195. O. Kimrin Gatos del Tigre
    196. M. Cloud Poppa Sacks
    197. Cincinnati North Dallas...
    198. C. Taylor Scarborough ...
    199. J. Losman DownNotOut
    200. New Orleans Cleveland St...
    201. B. Cundiff Screaming Mo...
    202. J. Hanson YOU CAN DO IT!
    203. K. Faulk Killer Bald ...
    204. Houston Teabagers
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    Some of your draft mates made some real reaches with their selections. This doesn't speak highly of their intelligence, so you ought to do well in this league.

    Some notable stinky picks/reaches, IMHO:
    Warrick Dunn in the 3rd
    Joey Porter in the 4th
    Jason Witten in the 4th??!??
    Deshaun Foster in the 4th? (#2 on the depth chart!)

    I wouldn't have drafted L.Coles but that's because I've been burned by him before. Actaully you've drafted both him AND Santana Moss, both of whom I took chances on last year and both of whom where utterly underwhelming.

    You're right that picking 11th makes it hard in some ways but overall I would say that draft was pretty average for you. If I had to criticize your draft, I'd say that Gonzalez might have been a reach. If he's true to form he'll have a more average season after racking up 1200yards last season.

    Also not sure I agree with you that only backups were left over after your 2nd pick at RB...
    Travis Henry & Reuben Droughns were still available, to name but two. While Droughns is arguably not a great choice, Henry should have every chance to succeed in Tennessee and while he's a bit riskier than Edge or Dillon or whoever, he's almost certain to be a quality starter. The boy can play.

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    Some of your comments are based on just plain wrong info my friend. Foster will be the starter in Carolina. Davis is done, and they don't even speak about him anymore. This is why I picked up shelton.

    Travis Henry is not the starter either, Chris Brown is.

    As for Droughns, let me see. Another back that is leaving the Denver system, which means his numbers are currently inflated. Hasn't played a full season, and lastly is going to one of, if not the worst running teams in the league. The reason I went with a WR instead of him in that round was because I felt that there weren't any RBs that are worthy of starting in the 3rd spot, so I needed to load up on decent receivers with good potential. I've had both Coles and Moss in the past, and been pleased and disappointed both. I think Coles is a better fit going back to play with Chad. If you consider he had a great receiving year last year, just no TDs, I think he has good upside. Moss is a talent, and worked with Ramsey in the offseason, and he was a risk/reward pick.

    As for Gonzales being a stretch, I'm not sure why you'd say that. He is usually gone late 3rd round. I got him in the fourth. There were a few stud WRs left, but nobody that you could consider to be consistent. Gonazales has always been a stud, every single year. Last year he had 102 catches so I'm not sure why you'd think he's not a solid choice there. It's not the first time he's had 1200 yards, and he's had more TDs in other years as well. Is it a spike? Maybe. Is it a result of Priest not wanting as many touches, especially passes? Possibly as well. In the end, I was looking for consistency, and even with the few stud WRs out there, they didn't seem as valuable or consistent as Tony G.
    Last edited by ElPietro; 08-11-2005 at 09:30 AM.
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    I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.

    Is there anything more beautiful than a beautiful, beautiful flamingo, flying across in front of a beautiful sunset? And he's carrying a beautiful rose in his beak, and also he's carrying a very beautiful painting with his feet. And also, you're drunk.

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    Hm. seems like I may need to start researching. To be honest I haven't done my fantasy research since last year.

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    I'm guessing in many leagues, Davis will go undrafted. I was surprised that someone actually picked him up.

    Yeah, I had to give myself the 2-3 day crash course. With Coles going back to NY I actually valued him higher. Considering he had what, 90+ catches last year, I figure he will slide back into a #1 spot nicely with the Jets.

    To be honest, I hate having redskin players on my team. But perhaps another year gone by for the coaching staff, a slightly bulked up Portis, and a more mature and uninjured Ramsey with Moss can make a difference.

    Ultimately, I feel Portis will at worst do "ok", and Moss was a bit of a flyer, but with 2 RBs I can easily rotate things quite a bit in the other WR/Flex spots. I've also found that I generally have been good at grabbing at least one or two nice pickups off the wire.

    Being the guy that grabbed Muhammad last year certainly didn't hurt. Although, I could argue it was at the expense of my draft pick of Steve Smith, which hurt me in both my FF leagues.
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    Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey:

    I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.

    Is there anything more beautiful than a beautiful, beautiful flamingo, flying across in front of a beautiful sunset? And he's carrying a beautiful rose in his beak, and also he's carrying a very beautiful painting with his feet. And also, you're drunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callahan
    I wouldn't have drafted L.Coles but that's because I've been burned by him before. Actaully you've drafted both him AND Santana Moss, both of whom I took chances on last year and both of whom where utterly underwhelming.
    I drafted both of these "studs" last year. I ended up with some sweet guys though - Mushin, Stokely, A. Gates.

    12 team league?!?!?! I would hate that - 1 injury and your season is done. We cap it at 10, so you can make a move if you need to - 24 more free agents for people to play around with........

    I haven't done any research yet either.....I have one week before my draft!

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    I like 12 team leagues because you actually have to know something about football to do well. In 10 or less team leagues, everyone has great players, nobody has to worry about backups, or rookie impact players, or speculate on matchups, because they have either good or great players at each position.

    It's still fun to play 10 teamers, but it doesn't take very much skill, mostly just luck. 8 team I wouldn't even waste my time though.
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    A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls. -- Dan Quayle

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    Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey:

    I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.

    Is there anything more beautiful than a beautiful, beautiful flamingo, flying across in front of a beautiful sunset? And he's carrying a beautiful rose in his beak, and also he's carrying a very beautiful painting with his feet. And also, you're drunk.

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    surprised to see priest holmes and mcallister get such a high picks.

    would have loved to have joined this league, but was MIA for a couple months. oh well.
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    there is still room in the WBB league, Webb

    PM me if you want in

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