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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    IDIOT Personal Trainers..

    I had to post a thread on this because this is just completely ridiculous. I have a personal trainer at my gym named John. The guys pretty thick I mean just a big-frame, not too much definition but just a big guy. He personal trains for a living. He probably has around 5 clients a day which isnt too bad I guess. I mean different people on different days or whatever. I just cannot believe how retarded this guy is.

    First of all everytime I see him workout he starts off his workout with around 10 sets of close-grip chin-ups. I just dont understand that but oh well. Then he moves onto cables. He trains his biceps and triceps NONstop with cables. I mean cables can be good sometimes but I have NEVER seen him do anything different for his arms.

    Anyway I asked him one time what a good exercise for really widening my back would be. Because his back is definitely developed. Not all that thick, but VERY wide. He suggested that I drop all my back exercises, and try standing cable laterals. Okay I am not sure what the correct name is, but theyre for your rear delts / middle traps. Standing in the middle of the cable station with the cables all the way up to the top, your left hand holding the cable to your right, and vice-versa, and simply doing rear laterals in a X kind of motion.. he was COMPLETELY serious. I almost laughed in his face!!

    Then today I saw him again and I asked him what his diet was like.. he replied, "fish, thats all." I was like, "why nothing but fish?" And he tells me this explanation about how ever since he ate JUST fish hes concentration and energy has gone up, because his body doesnt have to digest the beef or chicken.. I just couldnt believe how RETARDED this guy is.

    I mean how could people pay him to personal train them when he doesnt have a CLUE what hes talking about. Hes probably 35 and workout out for around 15 years he said, and still has NO CLUE whats going on. I suggested he check out Arnold's book or a few others just to give him SOME clue what exercises work what muscle groups..

    Damn!


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    A problem across the world, personal trainers without a clue. Especially certified personal trainers without a clue, that is the one I like best.

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    "I mean how could people pay him to personal train them when he doesnt have a CLUE what hes talking about"

    This is the norm, not the exception.
    Squats work better than supplements.
    "You know, if I thought like that, I'd never put more than one plate on the bar for anything, I'd never use bands or chains, I'd never squat to parallel or below, and I'd never let out the slightest grunt when I lift. At some point in your lifting career (assuming you're planning on getting reasonably strong and big), you're going to have to accept that most people think you are some kind of freak." -Sensei
    "You're wrong, and I have a completely irrelevant pubmed abstract that may or may not say so." - Belial
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    And what's even worst is all his clients believe everything he tells them because they don't know any better...

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    Cool, does this mean I can start eating beef again?

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    Originally posted by syntekz
    And what's even worst is all his clients believe everything he tells them because they don't know any better...
    Well said. These are the people that are supposed to be knowledgeable. These are the people that people turn to...I've talked to many, they don't know ****.

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    This thread inspires me to become a personal trainer and bring enlightment to all. Kinda like a Buddhist. Or something. :P
    "Then on leg day do squats, lunges, stiff legged deadlifts, fluffernutters, and calf raises."--Belial, training a newbie

    PowermanDL on Russian culture: "Big furry hats come into play somewhere."

    "The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value. I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." --Thomas Paine

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    He sounds amazing(ly stoopid) - at any rate keep doing the cross-grip cable lifts and eating fish, you will get there...hehe

    Anyone else got some funny stories about crazy techniques people use to get big? I like it.

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    Originally posted by Jane
    This thread inspires me to become a personal trainer and bring enlightment to all. Kinda like a Buddhist. Or something. :P
    I tried that approach. Its disheartening unless you're already in perfect shape yourself.

    People don't tend to listen unless you've got a body to back it up.
    Vin Diesel has a fever.. and the only prescription is more cowbell.

    Budiak: That girl I maced
    Budiak: macked
    Budiak: heh maced
    Budiak: I wish

    ShmrckPmp5: a good thing people can't fire guns through the computer...your ass would have been shot years ago

    Y2A 47: youre smooth as hell
    Y2A 47: thats why you get outta tickets, and into panties

    galileo: you're a fucking beast and I hate you
    galileo: hate

    assgrabbers are never subtile, they will grabb ass whereever they go,public or not, I know the type, because I am one. - Rock

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    Originally posted by Jane
    This thread inspires me to become a personal trainer and bring enlightment to all. Kinda like a Buddhist. Or something. :P
    *** Go for it Jane, It's me against the world when I do it and it is damn frustrating trying to argue with ignorant, uneducated PT's.
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    "Test all things; hold fast what is good.": 1 Thessalonians 5:21

    "I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
    So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
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    This one guy in my gym class walks up to the free weights, picks up two 20pounders and does a twisted bicep curl type thing really fast, sticking his elbows out like a bird spreads its wings. He gets an intense look on his face as the metal is flying in circular motions, continues for a couple of seconds, then drops the weights back to their place with a satisfied grunt.

    Fascinating.
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    "Then on leg day do squats, lunges, stiff legged deadlifts, fluffernutters, and calf raises."--Belial, training a newbie

    PowermanDL on Russian culture: "Big furry hats come into play somewhere."

    "The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value. I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." --Thomas Paine

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    Ah, the tank-topped "hummingbird" variety of curl jockey. Usually their wing speed is much more limited. That's a rare find indeed.

    Next week on Gym-clown Hunter, we'll go in search of the elusive Half-squatter. Those are hard to find, but we're going all the way to Bally's to find this specimen.
    Vin Diesel has a fever.. and the only prescription is more cowbell.

    Budiak: That girl I maced
    Budiak: macked
    Budiak: heh maced
    Budiak: I wish

    ShmrckPmp5: a good thing people can't fire guns through the computer...your ass would have been shot years ago

    Y2A 47: youre smooth as hell
    Y2A 47: thats why you get outta tickets, and into panties

    galileo: you're a fucking beast and I hate you
    galileo: hate

    assgrabbers are never subtile, they will grabb ass whereever they go,public or not, I know the type, because I am one. - Rock

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    This is kind of interesting, but not as good as the hummingbird curl guy. Two girls, ponytailed and in full workout gear, surrounded by machines and a full variety of DBs and BBs lay down in the middle of a mat in the middle of the school weight room, and, rolling onto one side so they are facing each other, lean on their elbows and repeatedly raise and lower one of their legs while chatting about today's hot gossip.

    *Jane proceeds to step over the spasmic legraising rituals and heads straight for the squat rack*
    "Then on leg day do squats, lunges, stiff legged deadlifts, fluffernutters, and calf raises."--Belial, training a newbie

    PowermanDL on Russian culture: "Big furry hats come into play somewhere."

    "The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value. I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." --Thomas Paine

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    Good girl.
    Vin Diesel has a fever.. and the only prescription is more cowbell.

    Budiak: That girl I maced
    Budiak: macked
    Budiak: heh maced
    Budiak: I wish

    ShmrckPmp5: a good thing people can't fire guns through the computer...your ass would have been shot years ago

    Y2A 47: youre smooth as hell
    Y2A 47: thats why you get outta tickets, and into panties

    galileo: you're a fucking beast and I hate you
    galileo: hate

    assgrabbers are never subtile, they will grabb ass whereever they go,public or not, I know the type, because I am one. - Rock

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    I know many. Most of the ones I know claim machines are the only way to get big, lifting is HORRIBLE for anyone under 18, and the best exercise for triceps is dumbell kickbacks.

    Someone should seriously change up the test they have to take to become a personal trainer.
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    Finally, we walk over to the pullup bar. For 30 minutes, we observe a young male specimen throughouly excercise his facial muscles as he attempts to attract a female through the ritualistic phrases used every mating season. After the initial verbal skills are demonstrated, the male proceeds to the second phase--a show of strength. The male hops and grabs the bar, raises himself briefly and comes back down, all while performing the aweinspiring task of "looking cool" at the same time. The female responds with appreciative but incoherent noises as she admiringly touches the bicep of the red faced male. The bell rings, and gym class is over. A successful session for all.
    "Then on leg day do squats, lunges, stiff legged deadlifts, fluffernutters, and calf raises."--Belial, training a newbie

    PowermanDL on Russian culture: "Big furry hats come into play somewhere."

    "The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value. I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." --Thomas Paine

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    Originally posted by PowerManDL


    People don't tend to listen unless you've got a body to back it up.
    Or the lifts. People like to see their trainers practicing what they preach.
    "Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
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    Lifts, for my body size, I have. And its not like I don't have any muscle. However, fitness is by definition an image-oriented field.

    I don't have the image.
    Vin Diesel has a fever.. and the only prescription is more cowbell.

    Budiak: That girl I maced
    Budiak: macked
    Budiak: heh maced
    Budiak: I wish

    ShmrckPmp5: a good thing people can't fire guns through the computer...your ass would have been shot years ago

    Y2A 47: youre smooth as hell
    Y2A 47: thats why you get outta tickets, and into panties

    galileo: you're a fucking beast and I hate you
    galileo: hate

    assgrabbers are never subtile, they will grabb ass whereever they go,public or not, I know the type, because I am one. - Rock

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    Wow Jane, sounds like you've got a full fledged curl-jockey infestation.

    I'd call Orkin and have that looked at.
    Vin Diesel has a fever.. and the only prescription is more cowbell.

    Budiak: That girl I maced
    Budiak: macked
    Budiak: heh maced
    Budiak: I wish

    ShmrckPmp5: a good thing people can't fire guns through the computer...your ass would have been shot years ago

    Y2A 47: youre smooth as hell
    Y2A 47: thats why you get outta tickets, and into panties

    galileo: you're a fucking beast and I hate you
    galileo: hate

    assgrabbers are never subtile, they will grabb ass whereever they go,public or not, I know the type, because I am one. - Rock

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    saw this today, a leg press machine loaded with what looked to be about 700 pounds and waited to see who was going to get on with it. This really average looking guy takes a seat and I thought maybe he was just naturally strong. I dont know what he was trying to achieve but he made a big fuss about it, whilst moving the weight up and down with a range of about 5 cm.

    He looked about to see if anyone was watching and impressed at how much he could "press". If it were me I would have been embarassed about anyone seeing that.

    **
    Also Powerman, i wouldn't worry about the image. If you can get results in people then who cares what you look like? Better that than some prettyboy goon that obviously has no idea how to help people get where they want. I think it speaks for itself in many cases.

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    Originally posted by PowerManDL


    I tried that approach. Its disheartening unless you're already in perfect shape yourself.

    People don't tend to listen unless you've got a body to back it up.
    Hence my decision to diet and lose the bodyfat. You can get around the "image is everything" mentality of people. Plus, as any good salesman knows, people tend to believe what they see . Of course, if I never do anything with my new improved physique, such as finish my training manual or the like, what is the point? Ahhhh, life, so interesting indeed.

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    LMAO@PowerMan. A rare find, indeed...


    This reminds me of several threads at Elite- the funniest thing you've seen in a gym or the thing that p1sses you off most. Love it.

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    then theres the guy that does 17 different types of curls...different machines....cables....dumbells...barbells...different angles....I bet he got a A in geometry in 10th grade

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    my weight lifting teacher in gym class told me "dont do the bench press with a barbell, use a machine. Then you won't have to waste energy balancing the bar"

    it pisses me off when people talk to me or make comments while im obviously straining to finish a set. i obviously cant provide a very intelligent reply AND my set suffers. everybody loses dammit
    "Then on leg day do squats, lunges, stiff legged deadlifts, fluffernutters, and calf raises."--Belial, training a newbie

    PowermanDL on Russian culture: "Big furry hats come into play somewhere."

    "The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value. I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." --Thomas Paine

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    it pisses me off when people talk to me or make comments while im obviously straining to finish a set. i obviously cant provide a very intelligent reply AND my set suffers. everybody loses dammit

    I know!!! - prolly could start a whole new thread about that one. It ruins ur concentration.

    I had a friend that I used to work with and he was my training partner for about a month. I had to put an end to it becuase he would do his set then every time make smart arse wise cracks about other people from work when it was my turn. Sure it was pretty funny stuff but it meant that I was laughin in every set.

    u realy need that intense concentration in the final reps.

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