The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    eek... it's lil' Fixation! fixationdarknes's Avatar
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    Newb question about compound lifts and their significance.

    Let' say I'm doing a full-body routine (which I'm not right now, but am just curious) that includes Squats, Bench Press, Deadlifts, Chinups, Power Cleans, and some heavy ab work. I know that chinups aren't targeting the traps/rhomboids, but do work them to some degree. My question is: Would, say, doing chinups increase rowing strength just because of its compound sweetness? Or would you need to row to get stronger at rowing?

    Same goes for curling. If my chinups get stronger, will this increase my curling strength? Or do I need to actually curl to get stronger at curling?

    I've just always wanted to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    I think you already know the answer, man. Do you think someone who squats 700 will have trouble doing leg extensions with the stack?

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    Anything you do that works a muscle will make the muscle stronger, therefore the strength will carry over to other lifts. Like a lot of the pros say, you don't have to deadlift to get a bigger deadlift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debussy
    I think you already know the answer, man. Do you think someone who squats 700 will have trouble doing leg extensions with the stack?
    Yes. There are lots of people who don't have open kinetic chain single joint movement strength while being very good at heavy compound movements. All relatively speaking, of course.

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    eek... it's lil' Fixation! fixationdarknes's Avatar
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    Alright thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    Yes, compound movements to some degree or another work out every muscle group involved, plus I think they encourage the production of growth encouraging hormones.
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    eek... it's lil' Fixation! fixationdarknes's Avatar
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    Thanks for the input.
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    Age: 20, Height: 5'7", Weight: 165, Deadlift: 405, 9.5" Squat: 230 x 10, Bench: 195 (3x5)

    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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