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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #1
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    pecs & genetics question

    This has been bothering me for a while, so I'll ask here.


    here's the scenario:
    friend #1 - benches 215
    friend #2 - benches 225
    me - benches 240

    What bothers me are my pecs. friend #1 benches 215, he has thick pecs
    friend #2 has huge pecs and benches the 225, and me, well I have what I
    call 'average joe pecs'. I clearly out-bench them. I talked to my father and
    he said my muscles are still developing. I kinda believed him because I
    noticed my pecs were getting firm, but no size/thickness gains since I talked
    about it.

    My great grandfather was a farmer, my grandfather worked at GM and
    retired, and my father works at GM and from what I seen in old pictures of
    my father and grandfather, we all have 'average joe pecs'.

    Is this how the genetics made my family?

    If it is genetics and I cant change the shape I wont let it bother me, but if I
    can get my pecs to shape i'll double the time I spend at the gym.

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    Genetics plays a huge role. Don't worry about it, keep getting bigger and stronger, and you'll be fine.

    When you are 240 @ 8% bodyfat, only bodybuilding judges will notice your 'average' pecs.
    Squats work better than supplements.
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    Benching is a compound movement not a pure chest exercise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Stagg
    When you are 240 @ 8% bodyfat, only bodybuilding judges will notice your 'average' pecs.
    hrmm, never thought of it like that. thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by RussianRocket
    Benching is a compound movement not a pure chest exercise
    yes, I know that, but when I was working out I would expect my pecs to fill out, even if it was just a little bit. to my dissapointment, they just got a little bit firmer for the months I was working out.

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    Your pecs filling out will be a function of diet. How much you bench has absolutely nothing to do with how your chest looks.
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    I feel you bro I bench 275 and still have average joe pecs (since that's what we seem to be calling them).

    A couple things: first of all strength and size are not directly related so check out at what repetition range you are usually doing your chest exercises at. Genetics does play a huge role but there are still things that you can do to get a bigger chest. If you want big pecs you'll also have to eat a lot of food and protein. If you follow the links in my signature and whatnot you can get to a pic of my chest...
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    Good advice here...make sure getting enough protein or your pecs will not grow.

    I bench 405 and there are many guys at the gym that have bigger pecs than I do but lift probably half as much. Even though bench is currently my strongest lift my pecs are my far my most lagging body part.

    So, I've been hitting chest with somewhat high volume and using different exercises, (Flat BB, Incline DB, Flys) and have been having some progress.
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    I was just about to say "are you eating enough?"

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    Just curious, how do your back (lats) and triceps look compared to your friends? ROM? Width of grip. These all play a large role in how much one can bench, there are many variables. I bench as much as some people with much larger pecs, but my triceps are HUGE compared to theirs. SO it kinda balances out.
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    as for eating enough, I eat a lot of red meat when it's in the fridge, I eat a lot of
    cereal with 2% milk, and I eat a lot of pasta, along with penut butter sandwitches, so
    I think I am getting enough protein and carbs


    and for the comparision, me and my friends are around the age of 16-17.
    you brought up your triceps, well I have fairly big arms/shoulders. I was thinking
    about that and the fact I out-lifted them in the arm/shoulder exersizes. The one
    thing I dont understand is why would my pecs NOT be getting bigger, I was a bit
    stupid when I was working out last year and I just did core lifts, this year ill do about
    every lift for my routine, hopefully I will see progress in the mirror, and not just in the
    weights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by userName-pLump
    as for eating enough, I eat a lot of red meat when it's in the fridge, I eat a lot of
    cereal with 2% milk, and I eat a lot of pasta, along with penut butter sandwitches, so
    I think I am getting enough protein and carbs
    Nooooooo ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho. Honestly take the time to count up how many grams of protein you eat in a day. I'd recommend that you eat over 150g of protein a day and some people would recommend 200+ grams of protein a day. Count your grams up and you'd be lucky if you hit 100g.
    On another note nobody cares how many carbs you eat... sounds strange but are you getting enough fat also? I'm dead serious supposedly fat helps with different muscle-building chemical processes and whatnot.
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    Bench.........225x1...............275x1.................?
    Squat...........?.......................?....................365x5
    Deadlift........?.....................315x5...............435x5
    Weight........180...................192...................185
    BF%.............?......................12.....................12
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    fat regulates your hormones, and growth hormone releases testosterone. That's a good thing. Check out the sticky thread titled What a Bodybuilder eats," in the diet & nutrition section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by userName-pLump
    as for eating enough, I eat a lot of red meat when it's in the fridge, I eat a lot of
    cereal with 2% milk, and I eat a lot of pasta, along with penut butter sandwitches, so
    I think I am getting enough protein and carbs
    Red meat, milk and peanut butter and you think you getting enough protein. No way. I drink a half a gallon milk every day, atleast 80 grams of whey protein, peanut butter sandwhiches all the time and I still dont get enough.
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    *Cough* Told ya so...
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    Bench.........225x1...............275x1.................?
    Squat...........?.......................?....................365x5
    Deadlift........?.....................315x5...............435x5
    Weight........180...................192...................185
    BF%.............?......................12.....................12
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    And finally...do decline press. No im not kidding.
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