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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    WTF! i cant put any mass on?

    Ok i'm not one of those whiners who says why cant i gain weight, but does nothing to gain weight.

    I have been working out steady for 1 year, and have worked out previusly to that for 1.5yrs steadily with a 1 year break in between.

    I have followed very strict workout routines, never skipping a workout. I go 3 times a week. Zero Cardio. Just weights. I have followed Wbb1 and more recently got a trainer who was a former national body builder.

    I have a very strict diet. I am really into the the health scene and always track what i eat, and know what i'm eating.

    I eat 5-6 moderate meals a day. I consume 1g of protein per Lb of body weight as a minimum. I get plenty of rest. Drink lots of water. Consume 1 shake everyday. (so thats 6-7 meals a day) take potent vitamins. I take Creatine and whey protein. I aslo consume a weight gainer.

    I Literally spend hundreds on food, i eat so much, i cant really afford it.

    My body weight is stuck at 170lbs. i'm 5'11.
    I squat 275lbs 3 sets of 8, my workout bench press is 175lbs, i leg press 675lbs 3-sets of 8.

    My strength is way up there. My form is great. I'm training for the police in the back of my head, but i am so damn small.

    I recently started trying to eat bad foods, to put on some mass. I at a box of 6 Ice cream sandwiches everynight after supper, for 10 days. NOTHING.

    how is this possible?


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    post your workout routine.

    Post what you eat in a typical day.

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    Dude I eat a ****-ton of food, and I spend maybe $60-70 a week- that's including my $50 a month protein shake allocation, as well as the periodic dinner out.
    The answer is eat more. Buy cheaper food. Stop eating moderate meals and start force-feeding yourself. You get used to it, it's really only uncomfortable for a week or so.
    If everything else is in check, and you're not gaining weight, then there really isn't any other possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roddy
    My body weight is stuck at 170lbs. i'm 5'11.
    I squat 275lbs 3 sets of 8, my workout bench press is 175lbs, i leg press 675lbs 3-sets of 8.

    My strength is way up there. My form is great. I'm training for the police in the back of my head, but i am so damn small.
    You've been working out for a year and your bench press is at 175 lbs? You should be able to bench and squat quite a bit more. Are you certain that your routine is up to par?

    Sorry but you don't have any other choice but to eat even more food. Then again maybe your metabolism is really really high and you need to eat less to get your metabolism back down. Of course that doesn't make sense because if you were eating so much that your metabolism got that high then you would HAVE to put on weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    Sorry but you don't have any other choice but to eat even more food.


    That is the answer.
    Last edited by BCC; 08-20-2005 at 02:00 PM.
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    I suspect that you eat way too much trash and you probably don't have a mass-building regimen. Junk food is far more expensive than good food, and you probably don't eat as much as you think. Post your diet for the past few days and some workouts.

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    Yeah, how much can you dead?

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    What are your calories like now? If you need more, eat more fat - it's very easy to slip in some extra calories with olive oil, nuts, natural peanut butter, avocados, egg yolks, butter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenimDemon
    $50 a month protein shake allocation.
    50 bucks a month? You can get 10 pounds of ON 100% whey for that. That's 144 serving!
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    I somehow suspect those are 1/2 ROM squats, how deep are they?

    Yeah, eat more. Simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BG5150
    50 bucks a month? You can get 10 pounds of ON 100% whey for that. That's 144 serving!
    My two shake mixes are about $4.50/lb and $3.50/lb for MRP and PWO, respectively. I buy 5 pounds of each, and shipping is roughly $9.
    Those 144 servings of ON are smaller than the ones I'm taking, as I take 40-50 protein-gram increments as servings.
    I also don't want it to be exclusively whey concentrate (which is what turned me off from ON initially). Granted, in the post workout I'm paying somewhat for cheap carbs, but that's fine.
    I drink 1-2 MRPs a day and 1-2 PWOs in addition on workout days.

    It's more than I'd like to spend, but it's a nice alternative to eating more tuna.
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    Count up your total calories. One gram of protein or carbs has 4 calories. One gram of fat has 9 calories. What's your total?
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    Eat more. What's not to understand? And yes, you can put on mass. You just aren't eating enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh BDK
    I suspect that you eat way too much trash and you probably don't have a mass-building regimen. Junk food is far more expensive than good food, and you probably don't eat as much as you think. Post your diet for the past few days and some workouts.
    I'm thinking that he probably doesn't eat ENOUGH trash. Since he emphasized how much he's into eating healthy, he's probably not getting in enough cals

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    I've got the same problem. I need 5000 calories every single day to see any gain in mass. I can do it but I have to concentrate on eating, where I'm going to be, how I'm going to get enough food. Weight gainer shakes, milk, pasta and olive oil seems to be the staples of my calorie dense diet. Try drinking shakes right after or with a meal. There is no way around it, if you aren't gaining weight, you're not eat getting enough calories.

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    Man you're better off in the long run if you don't eat dirty, even if it means you're not gaining mass. You also said that you can barely afford to eat as much as you are now, so I guess you're a student. I've been there, trying to gain weight on a tight budget AND trying to eat healthy food. It didn't work. So what, I'd rather be healthy and maybe wait until I get really rich to start eating for mass. Until then, I'm happy with the muscles I have.

    Oh and BTW, 170 at 5'11'' assuming you're really lean is already a nice amount of muscle. Chicks don't like much more of it. And if you're not really lean, then why don't you focus on that instead of desperately gaining mass... it'll make you more popular with the ladies assuming that's your goal and it's much cheaper obviously. You'll probably get fitter too in the process!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    You've been working out for a year and your bench press is at 175 lbs? You should be able to bench and squat quite a bit more. Are you certain that your routine is up to par?
    Uh, he said his work sets are at 175 lbs for bench. And he's squatting 275 for 8 reps.... sounds fine to me.
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    i do 3 sets of 8-10 @ 175lbs for bench, thats pretty good IMO. I dead lift 245lbs currently ( leary of a back injury ). My squats are the correct range of motion not 1/2 squats, i have great leg strength IMO. I do not eat trash as someone indicated, i just tried it for a few days.

    I will post up my routine the next time i use the computer. as well as my diet, just wanted to reply to those points quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCC
    That is the answer.
    :withstupi If you eat enough food you WILL gain weight. Whether it's fat, muscle or water is a different story.
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    And don't start comparing lifting stats...If the guy is throwing up 175 or 275...what does it matter? Or if you are slinging 175, or 275? Does it matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BG5150
    And don't start comparing lifting stats...If the guy is throwing up 175 or 275...what does it matter? Or if you are slinging 175, or 275? Does it matter?

    Exactly.

    No one should be telling him how much he should be lifting, it's BS like that which is why half the people are afraid to be honest about their lifts. Keep your damn opinions about how strong someone SHOULD be to yourself.

    175 bench for working sets means he's benching a little more than his bodyweight many times, which is in my book

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    6 months ago I had trouble benching the bar, now I do 150 for reps.

    The # of your lift is irrelevant, all that matters is progression.

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    Foolishly, no one has asked this question yet.

    If you're truly eating sufficient calories, are your lifts increasing?
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    Or perhaps the cure for human obesity lies in your genetic make up... a body that will use what it needs and toss the rest as waste after a certain level of fat retention (a healthy amount). That would be cool.
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