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    Plagarized article on bb.com

    I was alerted to the fact that bb.com posted an article a couple of weeks ago that was pretty much a duplicate of an article that I wrote many years ago on Front Squats.

    This really stinks because I found out that another message board was having a discussion about whether I had copied the article from this guy. As a research writer, this can really affect one's reputation.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=552580

    sorry to post a link to another site-I just wanted to let WBB members know that not all sites are run with the same integrity.

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    WBB and bb.com aren't on the same level. WBB's quality of info and members is much higher.

    Good luck with all of that; that sucks that people have no morals.
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    I'm not at all suprised that bb.com would not check an article, they'll pretty much publish anything.

    The claimed author has been around for a while, though, this could be an honest mistake.

    If it isn't, it's a big deal.
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    That's BS, Keith.

    I'm glad the members there are giving you some support, although the admin looks like he's just giving you lip service.


    Edit: Assuming that this is the case, of course.
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    what a dickhead.

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    How can it be verified that you are the original author Keith?

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    It must be infuriating that someone has stolen your article, But at the same time it must have been good sh1t for someone to do that.

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    Keith, not that I doubt you, but is your original around somewhere so I could compare them? I'd like to see. The article on BB.com certainly has your style--that much is for sure. I noticed a couple things in there that didn't sound like you, though, which I expected. Usually your articles contain a personal story, which that did not. I'll presume he omitted that or you just didn't do it, but I'd be interested to see to what lengths he went to use your words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris mason
    How can it be verified that you are the original author Keith?
    Comparison, along with a verified first publishing credit..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrelwooddowd
    Comparison, along with a verified first publishing credit..

    You misunderstand, I am asking him how can HE verify that he was the original author. Does he have any proof?
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    Yep. It sounds very similar (the way he words things, the flow, etc.) to many of Keith's other articles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris mason
    You misunderstand, I am asking him how can HE verify that he was the original author. Does he have any proof?
    A first publishing credit. Whoever published the article first, which is probably where the plagiarizer copied the article. It would be easy enough to prove he wrote the article first, by showing a publishing credit from the original publisher on the date he published.
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    What a bunch of ****! I've had someone steal a piece of writing from me once. But I ended up winning the dispute. Good luck to you. People can be such jerkoffs.
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    Good find, Mike. That article was put up in July of this year. I guess that still doesn't prove the Keith didn't go and steal it from him first, but it's a good start toward making his case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrelwooddowd
    Good find, Mike. That article was put up in July of this year. I guess that still doesn't prove the Keith didn't go and steal it from him first, but it's a good start toward making his case.
    The webmaster's intro seems to support Keith's claim:

    Folks, got a lot to do today. In lieu of today's blog, I'm having Keith's article on Front Squats posted. See you next week! --Marty

    It seems clear to me that he's posting an older article because of something related (front squats) mentioned in the blog.
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    Here's someone posting the same article a couple of days earlier. Again, it seems clear that it's a well known article that many people have read.

    http://martygallagher.com/phpBB2/arc...nt-squats.html
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    Wow, the opening lines are exactly the same

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    looks like bb.com took the article down.
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    Check out this a BBing:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=563052

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    Quote Originally Posted by MM
    Here's someone posting the same article a couple of days earlier. Again, it seems clear that it's a well known article that many people have read.

    http://martygallagher.com/phpBB2/arc...nt-squats.html
    That was probably Keith himself posting that. Username was Riverhorse, which was/is his publishing outfit.
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    I posted this on a website that I contribute to about 4 years ago, the article was written about 5 years ago.

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    Keith, do you have anything official to show it? It would go a long way toward making your case, and outing him for what you're accusing him of.

    I don't mean to be a "doubting Thomas" but, like you said, it can really affect a reputation.
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    I certainly do-The website-www.cyberpump.com has an offical archive record, which shows when articles were submitted and posted, I also have the initial e-mail where it was submitted and the original Word document, which shows the date of origin. Like I said, if I did not have all of this data, I would not be raising such a fuss.

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    Always frustrating to see when someone steals someone elses work.

    Not that I am 100% saying that this is the case with this, because I do not know the conversation that was exchanged between Curtis and BB.com and until people do, it will all be speculation.

    We too have been vicitims of people stealing our articles and publishing them on other websites without even asking, sometimes even removing the author credit. Its very annoying seeing as how hard Maki works to get content that is for the most part exclusive and of good quality for people to rip it.
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