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    Why is my squat so close to my deadlift?

    I've got long arms and for the longest time my DL always dominated. However today I maxed below parallel 315 for 2... which would put me at ~335 or so parallel 1RM. My DL is only 375... this doesnt make sense because I have long legs (bad for squats) and long arms (good for DLs).

    This makes no sense, no? I thought maybe my hammies and glutes were a weak point but they don't seem to be.
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    you may just be better at one technique relative to the other technques.

    just keep trianing them both, and there both get bigger.

    Your deadlift is still bigger than squat though.
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    Ehhhh its better than your bench beating your squat...

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    long legs are just as bad for squat as for deadlift, so no surprise there.
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    Doesn't sound all that bad. My squat and deadlift PRs are only 10 kg different (170 and 180).

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    Simple mechanics. 99% of people are going to have higher deadlifts than squats, with two exceptions:

    1) Use of powerlifting gear
    2) Piss-poor form/ROM

    #1 is why you see almost every competing PLer with a significantly higher squat than pull. Equipment simply doesn't help the deadlift much at all, whereas wraps, briefs, and suit can add several hundred pounds to a squat.

    #2 is self explanatory. I could "squat" 600+ raw by just unracking the bar and doing what amounts to knee bends. But I'd rather do an actual squat than just have a big number for the sake of a big number.
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    Perhaps you should changeup your deadlifting style? Maybe try a different variation or something.
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    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Crippler
    I've got long arms and for the longest time my DL always dominated. However today I maxed below parallel 315 for 2... which would put me at ~335 or so parallel 1RM. My DL is only 375... this doesnt make sense because I have long legs (bad for squats) and long arms (good for DLs).

    This makes no sense, no? I thought maybe my hammies and glutes were a weak point but they don't seem to be.
    I'd chalk it up to a weakness. Most people have imbalances and don't realize that pin pointing them and smoking the heck out of them or it will do wonders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerManDL
    #2 is self explanatory. I could "squat" 600+ raw by just unracking the bar and doing what amounts to knee bends. But I'd rather do an actual squat than just have a big number for the sake of a big number.
    You mean like this:


    http://www.filecabi.net/u.php?file=1126118860.wmv
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manveet
    LOL. What was the point of that video...

    Btw, nice quarter squats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixationdarknes
    LOL. What was the point of that video...

    Btw, nice quarter squats.

    lol, I was simply using the video to illustrate the futility of the quater squat.
    "It is often said, mainly by the "no-contests", that although there is no positive evidence for the existence of God, nor is there evidence against his existence. So it is best to keep an open mind and be agnostic. At first sight that seems an unassailable position, at least in the weak sense of Pascal's wager. But on second thought it seems a cop-out, because the same could be said of Father Christmas and tooth fairies. There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?"

    Richard Dawkins


    "Out of all of the sects in the world, we notice an uncanny coincidence: the overwhelming majority just happen to choose the one that their parents belong to. Not the sect that has the best evidence in its favour, the best miracles, the best moral code, the best cathedral, the best stained glass, the best music: when it comes to choosing from the smorgasbord of available religions, their potential virtues seem to count for nothing, compared to the matter of heredity. This is an unmistakable fact; nobody could seriously deny it. Yet people with full knowledge of the arbitrary nature of this heredity, somehow manage to go on believing in their religion, often with such fanaticism that they are prepared to murder people who follow a different one."


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    hey if i can build legs like that doing quarter squats sign me up

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    holy jesus this guys legs just blew me away!
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    maybe that guy was counting his hammy as being parralel.
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    Quarter squats or not, Ruhl is still a beast.
    "It is often said, mainly by the "no-contests", that although there is no positive evidence for the existence of God, nor is there evidence against his existence. So it is best to keep an open mind and be agnostic. At first sight that seems an unassailable position, at least in the weak sense of Pascal's wager. But on second thought it seems a cop-out, because the same could be said of Father Christmas and tooth fairies. There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?"

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    "Out of all of the sects in the world, we notice an uncanny coincidence: the overwhelming majority just happen to choose the one that their parents belong to. Not the sect that has the best evidence in its favour, the best miracles, the best moral code, the best cathedral, the best stained glass, the best music: when it comes to choosing from the smorgasbord of available religions, their potential virtues seem to count for nothing, compared to the matter of heredity. This is an unmistakable fact; nobody could seriously deny it. Yet people with full knowledge of the arbitrary nature of this heredity, somehow manage to go on believing in their religion, often with such fanaticism that they are prepared to murder people who follow a different one."


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    If all he ever did was those, his legs wouldn't necessarily look like that. When he does like half a dozen other exercises for his legs, it doesn't mean the 1/4 squat is why they look like that.
    "I added some db curls with the pink weights for a bit of a burn." - Rookiebldr

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    True. But just think how huge he'd be if actually did them the right way.
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    damn check out those quads.
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