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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    workout

    Hey i need help with a new workout and was seeing if anyone can help me. I know mine isnt to good so i thought i would ask for some help My goals are to get big and look good too. I would also like to raise my bench too.



    right now my workout is

    -bench



    -then i do curls with the dumb bells (not hammer just horizontal the whole way) i go

    15, 20, 25, 30, 35 sets of 12 and in between those i do tri pull downs with the rope then i go back down again from 35 back to 15 and in between those i get a curved curl bar and sit down and do skull crusher kinda things and hold my elbow and get a dumb bell and from it from 90 degrees and straighten my arm.



    -Then i do some wide grip pull ups and some fore arm curls



    then i wait a day then come the next day i do the same thing but instead of bench i do decline



    any suggestions?? thank you

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    yes, wait more than a day. major muscle groups can take around 4 days to heal sometimes. if you overtrain, you'll never let your muscles grow.

    you also need a bigger routine with more variety. look into WBB#1, it's a full body workout, only 3 days a week. if you eat properly and are dedicated, I'll guarantee you'll see results.

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    WBB #1 where is that???
    Last edited by syntex; 10-02-2005 at 04:37 PM.

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    goto the front page of www.wannabebig.com and look at workout routines on the left hand side.

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    Okay. You weren't sent here to torment us.

    Hon, you need to work your legs (squats, RDLs/SLDLs, leg press...), your back (pullups is a good start, but you need deadlifts, rows...), your whole body - not just the curl-jockey standards of biceps and chest.

    What's your diet like?

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    my lower body is pretty strong im 160 squating 300 and i dont want them getting any bigger i skate if this matters to you...my diet i just eat...only 17 ;x
    Last edited by syntex; 10-02-2005 at 04:44 PM.

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    free squat??? as in free weight i think you are talking about yes

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    well. the more compound exercises you do (bench, squats, dead lifts) the more ur body will need to recover with human growth hormone, therefore your body will release even more while you sleep, which contributes to bigger, stronger, faster recovering muscles.

    so in an indirect way, something like squats and dead lifts can help your bench, as well as every other workout you do.

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    Not so sure about how the HGH thing works into all this, russ, but the heavy compound movements cause a lot of trauma and stimulate a large anabolic response (test), so you grow better overall.

    You do your squats all the way down, syntex? Kinda like this?



    Or do you stop at 90 degrees? 'Cause 300's pretty good!

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    90 degrees thats all they have us do in weight training at school

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    Ah.

    Yes, they notoriously teach this wrong. Not your fault. But there's no time like the present for you to start fixing this.

    90 degrees is possibly the WORST place to stop a squat. Terrible on the knees. You really need to go all the way down when you squat. Unless there's some weird reason why you personally cannot do this, start.

    I'll be interested to see how much you can squat when you do it properly.

    And start doing deadlifts, RDLs, GMs, lunges/split squats...

    Are you gaining weight? If you're not, you're going to have to eat more. An easy way to do this would be to just continue to eat what your mom feeds you, and add in some extra calories, particularly protein and fat. A good protein powder and some natural peanut butter, maybe some bananas, would be an easy way to do this.

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    well, hgh + anabolic levels + anabolic levels is what i should have said. all which come from compound movements.

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    <img src=http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/deadl.gif>
    eh little link isnt working
    is that all what a dead lift is never done them sorry for dumb question
    Last edited by syntex; 10-02-2005 at 05:04 PM.

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    Yes, sure, but GH increases from many things.

    Starving, for example.

    I'm not at all convinced that fluctuations in GH are going to do much for you in terms of body composition.

    Maybe someone with more background in endocrinology can step in here... ?

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    Your post didn't work, syntax, but there are a variety of deadlifts that people use.

    The regular "off the floor" dead is for back, where RDLs/SLDLs are for hammies, although there is a great deal of crossover. They all work back, and they all work hammies. Just a question of focus.

    I go into detail on deads if you click the link in my sig.

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    right now i wrote some excercises and seeing if you can help me split them in two different one i think im getting everytrhing i can work upper body...if there is something i am missing just tell me and add it or if i can get rid of some things you know

    Decline
    Bench
    Incline
    DB shoulder press
    Seated Cable Rows
    DB pullover
    Bar Curls
    Tri Pull Downs with rope
    PUll ups wide
    Dips
    EZ bar curls
    Hammer curls
    Db curls
    Dead lift
    Shrugs
    Upright rows
    Db rows

    kind of alot of stuff
    Last edited by syntex; 10-02-2005 at 05:34 PM.

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    Okay, well, this has been done for you in a few places.

    You can look at my upper body splits - I do shoulders with lats, and the rest of my back with chest. Bis get hit again with quads, tris with hamstrings.

    Or, you can look at the WBB routines and see how they are organized there.

    In general, you start with the heavy compound work (ie bench, dead, squat...) then go to accessory/concentration movements.

    So, for chest, you could do flat benches, followed by incline flyes and incline presses.

    Back, you could do deads, followed by bent over rows and or hammer rows.

    Lats, you could do chins, then pullovers and hammer or rope pull downs

    Quads, you could do AFT squats, then leg press and leg extension

    Hammies, try RDLs followed by high foot placement leg press, and then leg curls

    Got it?

    I try to keep my sets at no more than 20-24 in total for a whole workout.

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    Hey i need help with a new workout and was seeing if anyone can help me. I know mine isnt to good so i thought i would ask for some help My goals are to get big and look good too. I would also like to raise my bench too.



    right now my workout is

    -bench



    -then i do curls with the dumb bells (not hammer just horizontal the whole way) i go

    15, 20, 25, 30, 35 sets of 12 and in between those i do tri pull downs with the rope then i go back down again from 35 back to 15 and in between those i get a curved curl bar and sit down and do skull crusher kinda things and hold my elbow and get a dumb bell and from it from 90 degrees and straighten my arm.



    -Then i do some wide grip pull ups and some fore arm curls



    then i wait a day then come the next day i do the same thing but instead of bench i do decline



    any suggestions?? thank you
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    was my original curl workout thing like horrible or what??

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    Yes. Try WBB1 for 8 weeks, then go from there as you learn more. Remember, diet is key. If you don't eat right, and rest enough, you won't gain muscle.
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    I guess im difficult cause i dont like built's workout or WBB i rather make my own out of these i think i kinda changed the list can someone just like help me split me into two diff workouts

    Decline
    Incline
    Bench
    Db Shoulder
    Seated Cable Row-Mid back
    DB pull over- chest
    Bar Curls
    DB Curls(preacher curls???maybe)
    kick backs
    Tri Pull Downs
    Pull Ups
    Dips
    Forearm Curls
    Shrugs
    Upright Rows
    Incline DB rows


    Sorry about being difficult
    if somethings dont belong remove please if i need something else add it please i wanna work everything upper body i might throw lower depending how i feel...i want big shoulders,back, arms if this matters to you
    Last edited by syntex; 10-02-2005 at 06:51 PM.

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    It makes perfect sense to me that you want bigger shoulders, back and arms.

    But you don't seem to realize that this won't happen the way you plan without overeating, and working the legs.

    Hard.

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    dont try making your own routine. just do wbb#1, its well constructed, ive already seen nice results only after 3 weeks

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