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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Question regarding curls...

    Hello,

    My name is Mike and I am a senior in high school. I am on the varsity baseball team and we work out three times a week. However, on the side I like to do curls. Their is a problem, though. Ever since summer when I do curls on my right arm (I only use weights ranging from 10lbs.-45lbs.) I feel a "stress" in the top bone of my elbow. This is hard to explain...but when I flex my biceps (like this way: http://www.pcimagenetwork.com/muscle/p6.jpg) I feel tension in the top bone area. There is no tension in my left arm/elbow when I do it on that side...it just feels a lot different after doing curls for both arms. It almost seems like I'm getting work done in my left bicep while I'm not in my right....I dunno, I am a pitcher who throws right-handed so maybe all my pitching plays a part in this. It's not a pain where I have to stop, but it's bugging the hell out of me.

    Hopefully I didn't make things too complicated and someone can help me out.

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    Hmmm.

    What kind of form do you use for your curls? Alternating dumbbell, standing barbell, incline, preacher, spider, hammer...?

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    Get your ligaments checked out. I once threw a rock really hard, and ended up ripping one of my elbow ligaments. Sounds like the same sort of pain you're describing (possibly).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built
    Hmmm.

    What kind of form do you use for your curls? Alternating dumbbell, standing barbell, incline, preacher, spider, hammer...?
    I use the alternating dumbbell. Sometimes I just do a certain amount of reps with one arm and then switch to the other. I probably should just do alternating dumbbell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTT
    Get your ligaments checked out. I once threw a rock really hard, and ended up ripping one of my elbow ligaments. Sounds like the same sort of pain you're describing (possibly).
    It's weird, though. I haven't had any pain throwing a baseball...

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    How often are you curling? I curl maybe once a week. After barbell rows, chins, lat pull downs, deads, etc... my biceps are usually worked more then enough to basically completely avoid curling.
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    Good point Unreal - b-ball, how often do you do curls, and how may sets of how many reps do you do when you do 'em?

    Are you doing any other weightlifting? Do you work tris? Back? Legs? Anything else?

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    stop doing curl. let it heals for a week or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unreal
    How often are you curling? I curl maybe once a week. After barbell rows, chins, lat pull downs, deads, etc... my biceps are usually worked more then enough to basically completely avoid curling.
    Deads? How does that work your biceps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorge Sanchez
    Deads? How does that work your biceps?
    I don't know about you, but my biceps can get worked pretty well from deads...
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    My bicepts get worked pretty hard during deads.
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    If that is the case I think you are doing something wrong: http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...BDeadlift.html

    You're not supposed to engage your arms in the lift. There is no reason your biceps should be worked.
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    my arms sometimes get a bit sore but more like a... forearm sore then a biceps sore...

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    Pitching really screwed up my arm ligaments from Little League. Finally im almost over it now that im 18. Never pitching again!!!!!! Its just like trying to tear up your elbow in my opinion.

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    ^Perhaps if you pitched correctly, you wouldn't have those problems.

    I pitched for MANY years, and never had any major issues.



    I'd say stop doing curls for a while. They're not going to help you throw harder.......

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    Your biceps certainly get worked doing deads - when you hold a heavy bar, even hanging down in front of you, you are using your biceps, forearms, traps, etc. to help you hold the weight. It's great for the biceps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba booey
    Your biceps certainly get worked doing deads - when you hold a heavy bar, even hanging down in front of you, you are using your biceps, forearms, traps, etc. to help you hold the weight. It's great for the biceps.
    Not to get off topic, but:

    What kind of grip do you use that it works the bi's? I use an alternating grip and I don't really feel anything in the bi's when I deadlift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BG5150
    Not to get off topic, but:

    What kind of grip do you use that it works the bi's? I use an alternating grip and I don't really feel anything in the bi's when I deadlift.

    I also use a mixed grip, and alternate them each set - I'm not saying they get worked like supinated bent-over rows or chins, but that doing deadlifts will work the biceps to some degree, as they are needed to help hold the weight - but they will get some work.

    For an experiment - try doing chins (or curls, if you do them) after your deads - I would bet you will need to use less weight than normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba booey
    I also use a mixed grip, and alternate them each set - I'm not saying they get worked like supinated bent-over rows or chins, but that doing deadlifts will work the biceps to some degree, as they are needed to help hold the weight - but they will get some work.

    For an experiment - try doing chins (or curls, if you do them) after your deads - I would bet you will need to use less weight than normal.
    When you start your deads, are your arms straight? Or are they bent a little? If they are bent, that may be why the bi's are getting worked.

    And I don't doubt my pullups would suffer after deads, becasue there are a ton of auxillary muscles that help in chins that get hit in deads, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b-ball23
    I use the alternating dumbbell. Sometimes I just do a certain amount of reps with one arm and then switch to the other. I probably should just do alternating dumbbell.
    Do you lift the weight in a hammer curl motion, or do you rotate palms up with the elbow on the way up?

    If it hurts, i'd ditch the movement.

    Work your lower body if you are a pitcher. It's more important.

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    http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...BDeadlift.html

    I don't see biceps in the muscles being worked.

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    Imagine you're using your arms like cables to support the weight. You should not be using your biceps to actively move the weight, as that can (and will) lead to injury.

    Deads work almost all major muscle groups to some degree. Some more than others, naturally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SobaAddict70
    Imagine you're using your arms like cables to support the weight. You should not be using your biceps to actively move the weight, as that can (and will) lead to injury.

    Deads work almost all major muscle groups to some degree. Some more than others, naturally.
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    Alright, for you doubters, I have attached an article from none other than Ronnie Coleman - if you look approx 1/3 of the way down, he explains that his bicep size increased when he started deadlifting. I can find many others, but I think this should suffice.

    And yes, my arms hang straight down - I couldn't possibly keep my arms bent with the weight I use for deadlifting. The point is, when big weight is hanging down in front of you, as I stated earlier, you utilize many upper body muscles to help you hold that weight - including, among others, your traps, forearms and biceps.

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